M+ player base is being discriminated by blizzard - dinnars - many friends cancelling subscriptions

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According to the latest update, raid trinkets are only obtainable if you’ve defeated the corresponding boss on that specific difficulty. This means you need to kill at least four bosses every week for three weeks just to earn a single dinar, which can then be used to purchase one trinket. Even then, you still can’t access items like the one-armed bandit trinket, Mugzee’s trinket, or the Gallywix ring on the Myth track—simply because you haven’t beaten those bosses at that difficulty level.

This feels like blatant bias against Mythic+ players. Why can’t we just enjoy the game the way we prefer? We’re paying a monthly subscription just to be sidelined and treated like we’re less important. The vast majority of us want to focus on Mythic+ content—so stop trying to force us into raiding. Is it really that unreasonable to want to earn the best Mythic+ gear from Mythic+?

Let raiders stick to their content and earn gear suited for that. Why do raid items end up being best-in-slot for both raid and M+ content? It’s completely unfair.

On top of all this, M+ players already have to deal with a single random item from the Great Vault each week. And now we’re hit with this.

Several friends of mine are already canceling their subscriptions, and honestly, it might be the only way to get Blizzard to listen. Maybe if enough people take that step, they’ll stop treating the M+ community like second-class citizens.

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Cant you just get in on Heroic and upgrade to to 8/8?

Should have the same itlv as mythic or they changed it?

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how you mean canceling subscriptions? if they cancel it, still they won’t refund it right? so whats the deal for blizzarod… I am saying this only because I know these players will return with the next season, and blizz knows that. So if they dont refund they dont do anything to blizz? or am I wrong? If I cancel sub now, do I get refunded 6 months that I subbed in the future? I subbed 12months in october, if I refund do I get 6 months refunded? may to october refund?

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Are those raid items really BiS for M+? Are they !really! NEEDED for real world high key M+?

If so: Blizzard failed at spreading gear out according to content. Be it due to some internal design descision or because the community cries too much “we want everything everywhere”

Cancelling subscroptions doesn’t do anythng to companies. That’s why they dame up with theses “fancy” annual subspription models. no matter waht company.

And I don’t think it is all to easy to get your sub refunded just because of “I don’t like the content”, even if the critizism is appropriate.

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if your Quitting Mail me you gold Thanks in advance

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Yes and this is the only thing that is consistent every season.
Raid gear is always overtuned and ignores its own ilvl.

This is the crux of the problem. M+ players could ignore this entire dinar issue, if raid gear was not objectively better in m+, regardless ilvl.

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Do you genuinely need BiS mythic trinkets to push title keys when world first keys are timed with heroic or even normal ilvl trinkets?

Or is it just your personal greed talking?

I get my BiS mythic trinkets late this season because mugzee and gally drop them. I don’t have any use for the dinars at this point.

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Okay, but are they really NEEDED besides simcrafting? Do high keys fail purely due to lacking raid gear?
I’m not trying to devalue the “M+ needs raid gear” critizism, but over the past 21 years there have been several occasions where a lot of people put too much thought into simming rather than just playing and trying.

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Really? Want me to count every single m+ trinket that was way better than mythic raid trinkets in m+?

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Do raiders genuinely need BiS overtuned mythic trinkets/weapons/rings to defeat mythic gallywix or is that just their personal greed?

How wonderful that we know that they do not need that in fact, because mythic gally was killed at least a month ago in way worse gear.

Since m+ scales endlessly tho, this question becomes a tincy bit more nuanced.

Please go ahead.
All of my bises were from raid since SL 9.0 at least and I am counting.

Actually even back in Legion and in BFA as well.

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In addition to my last post which addresses the need question, I do believe trying to make every item finally perform according to its ilvl and not accidentally around 20 ilvl above it, should be generally a goal.

We dont need m+ for it to be an issue.
Why even have ilvl, if a certain endgame content blatantly ignores it on every chance they get?

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That in itself should be standard for all items anyways.

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But currently it is not.
And that is an issue, regardless if m+ even exists or not.

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Fun fact: mythic raiders aren’t the greedy ones here. We are raiding mythic, we will get the trinkets. Heroic raiders and m+ only players on the other hand DEMAND mythic BiS gear. See the difference?

And yet world first keys are timed with normal ilvl trinkets :confused:

I‘ll get to it when I’m home. At the top of my head (just trinkets)

Deadeye spyglass, IQD, blood spattered scale, sac, priory trinket (both), pacemaker, mechano core amplifier, Doti mirror, irondocks statstick, the famous arcanocrystal and many more.

Want me to continue?

Edit: trinket names.

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It’s not so simple. I’m very greedy and also selfish. I hate trinkets I have to use (I’m lazy too) so Blizzard giving 99% of players nothing also gave me every I want. I’d have to buy a use trinket and add an extra button to my bar.

I won, got what I wanted and I had to do nothing.

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Be lazy like me and Macro it with your cd.

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Well played. Seriously.

I had that idea. I briefly had SotR and Consecration on a macro because I’m too lazy (and stupid) to have them as separate buttons.

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I’m not easily offended but there are limits…

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I stopped doing it. I hated it so much.

Even though I’m bad and constantly waste GCDs, every single time I pressed SotR I knew for definite I’d just wasted a GCD and I felt like every Paladin ever showed up and judged me.

I’d rather just die because I was too oblivious to notice I hadn’t consecrated the ground.

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