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Behold everyone, Tyssera here has the gift of clairvoyance.
And theyâre totally entitled to do that. On condition that theyâre prepared to pay the penalty of their key depleting. I see no problem with that. The problem would come if there was no penalty. Then we would see people doing it all the time, as opposed to quite rarely, as it is now.
I didnât ignore it, but if by your solution âJust grab a bunch of people you know instead of puggingâ then that wonât be a problem, no?
If people would be doing this right now. Then we wouldnât even have this topic in the discusion.
The solution is right here under your nose, said multiple times in different topics.
But alas. For some, sitting and screaming on the forums, demanding papa Blizzard to handhold them is the the best choice, right?
And yeah yeah. Donât bother. I am already aware of the 100001 canned reasons why people canât say âHi!â and group up.
If I host a pug and ppl donât say âHiâ I kick them before we even begin!
Oh no, you got me all wrong, I donât care about key depletes, I only do my own keys with people I know, and I only pug the ones I donât have myself.
Depleting is a non issue for me because I just run it again and get a 15 back. The only reason I wouldnât be able to do that is if I reached my limit, 22+ keys
People forget socializing is a thing in an MMO, and that is their own fault, if you rely soly on pugging you have to take the RNG consequences of that with it.
And from that simple âHiâ. I have met many nice people whom I still in contact on discord.
All started with them being random m+ pugs and I just said Hi and initiated a conversation.
Once people learn of this⌠strange âvoodoo magicâ called socialization. M+ pug scene might even get good.
I exclusivly pug and I simply cannot imagine the amount of toxicity I have to deal with if keyâs did not depleteâŚ
Exactly!
I am a white samurai orc without shoeâs to feel and predict the movement off my enemies better.
Alot of ppl actually are amazed there are non-armored Orcâs wandering around and actually start a nice conversation!
Hey guys idk if its just me, buuut.
Can we please remove key depletion?
Isnt 30 minutes wasted time enough with gold and consumables cost?It will encourage repeting the key with same group or with minor adjustments.
It will increase amount of keys in finder for pug players.
It will remove frustration when ppl leaves (refarming key level)
It will loosen criteria for group invites bit.
I do not think its gonna make leaving situation worse bcs to be honest, ppl are leaving key as soon as they know dungeon is not timable anyway in pugs.
Filthy casual look :).
Thank you.
S.
Or you can Play better , not pug , Play with guildies and then you wont care about keys depleting .
People who care about key depletes are the same people who get mad or offended that they didnât get a âparticipation medalâ when they come in last. If you consistantly fail your own keys and deplete them consistantly you should play better or find better teammates.
If I host a pug and ppl donât say âHiâ I kick them before we even begin!
I got kicked from a group more than once for saying âHenloâ as I joined.
"Henloâ
Fair kick.
It is supposed to be âHiloâ.
I think lack of depletion would make behaviour worse, not better.
And thereâs your mistake. You should have said âhiâ instead
Imo its double edge sword.
If theres no depletion u can actually try to create group for progression ceirtain key and form better bonds with players during multiple attempts. But sure theres gonna be ppl who leaves after first group.
But honestly its reality now anyway.
Sooo whats the issue then?
Its not affecting all of you who are playing with stable groups. Hell u can even play your key with pug for fun.
Imo its double edge sword.
If theres no depletion u can actually try to create group for progression ceirtain key and form better bonds with players during multiple attempts. But sure theres gonna be ppl who leaves after first group.
But honestly its reality now anyway.
Sooo whats the issue then?
Its not affecting all of you who are playing with stable groups. Hell u can even play your key with pug for fun.
I dont want to waste my time because Tommy the wannaby hardcore will wantvto reset his keys 20 times because he didnt like the fact that Johnny the baddie Did 29k aoe instead 30 k on first pull .
Well keys above 20 are played just for score not for gear or anything else anyway. I would rather reset scuffed run then refarmed the key for 2 days before i get same one for second try.
Want the convenience and QoL of pugs? Then pay the cost of it(aka key depletes).
Canât have cake and eat it too.
Keep depletes in game . But give me cake .
Fair deal imho.
IMHO Depletion should only ever occur if the dungeon wasnât fully completed.
As long as the last boss is defeated the key should stay the same rank or upgrade depending on how fast it was.