if you want to pug rule nr 1 play tank or better heal.
End of story.
I want the system to change but since the game doesn’t currently implement a punishment for leavers I am not going to role play the Keyboard Vigilante and attack people or shame them. I am just stating why I believe this is wrong and has to change, if it is not meant to ever change… Well, this is it and this is that.
So Yeah, there is a fine line between respecting your opinion and disagreeing. Btw I could be as defensive as you and start saying things like “so you want me to waste my time on menus as a DD? No! I want to choose how I spend my time in the game, not you and not Blizzard”. 
But then there would be no point to this discussion. 
Yeah and I already stated that there is no solution to this issue. Not even a proposal so it’s not going to be fixed anytime soon.
Oh I am 100% sure you don’t care. I was just explaining the reason I went from DD to tank/heal and back to DD and why I am not ever going to heal.
Sure, and their solution could be an automated matchmaking system, much to your dismay.
No AI needed, it already happens because Blizzard is getting feedback from multiple platforms and they keep statistics of our preferences. Why you think sometimes there are weird dialogues choices during some quests like “i think this should happen” or “I don’t care, I just want the loot”. If you really think they don’t keep track of those or that they don’t check sentiments on YT, various forums etc etc then I have no more comment on this.
I was rather admitting I don’t have the necessary expertise on the subject, but you actually went and wrote this… 
I could now start a debate about how my profession and my research actually give me more relevant knowledge on the matter. But I won’t do that, because it’s silly and it will make anyone whose actual job is make games or code WoW to cringe like they never cringed before in their life.
So worst case scenario is nothing will change? That alone is a reason to try it. And if it doesn’t work, let’s go back to LFG since it will still be there anyway, we don’t want to delete it.
Solo Queue is fine in my opinion.
People will get to spend more time inside the dungeon instead of finding a group 
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Then admit the smoking gun: What we have is just a compromise. Good enough for most people, perfect for none.
And sometimes, compromises is the best you will ever get.
Also, stop assuming moral superiority on things. Its a game, not RL. I wish I could just press a button and magically disappear with 0 consequences from a party im being insulted in. Or, press a magic remote and not have to hear the same coworker nag about dumb stuff. I WISH stuff like that existed in RL.
Like I said. You give them way too much credit than what they deserve. And some easter egg in 1 quest from the Expedition is no prof of anything.
If they REALLY kept track of it, then you would have not seen the ‘questionable’ design choices they made. RNG, Covenants, Aug Evoker… and many, many, many other annoying systems nobody wanted but got anyways.
That some top notch copium you got there… 
I rest my case: Out of 25 post I saw, 10 were about this. 15 about “nerf class X or class Y”. Il post them for you:
TLDR: Waiting 30 min to get in to get BS game.
Leavers ARE punished with rating loss. Here is the #1000 post complaining about leavers. AGAIN!
So people though Solo would solve the underlaying issue of MMR we used to have with the old LFR tool. It did not.
Oh look, another leaver post. And leavers are punished!!!
Look, a post about greafers.
Another one about long quew times.
You see? YES im 100%, 10000000% sure that LFR system WILL NOT WORK. People will be back in the forums complaining about the same stuff they complained before.
When they forgot about the underlaying issues…
In the case of PvP it is modifier bloat, MMR, healer shortage. Thats what it used to be in SL. People thought it was LFR tool. But it was not.
And as I predicted before, if before they waited 50 min in the LFR tool to get some BS game, not they STILL wait 50 min, and STILL get a BS game. And guess what? Back to the forums. To complain about the exact same crap they complained before.
And by the way, you DONT need to be an Astronaut to see it.
Are you going to continue to flat earth me? Or are you going to admit the obvious?
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My guess would be no, this Thread at this point is just going in Circles
On one side we have the “This time it will be different hopium”
On the other side we have the “Look at the PvP Que times”
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Im the one high on hopium believing I can stop people asking for dumb stuff in the forums.
I used to not care. Until a minority of people complaining about Personal Loot forgot WHY we got it in the first place. So Blizz had a rare moment of “reading player feedback” and put Group Loot instead.
Now there are literal rivers of tears about Groop Loot. Many more than what we used to have with PL.
Same thing here. I want to prevent the drama of Solo in PvE. The last category I still play.
Pure copuim though. People are really stubborn and forget quickly.
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And lets not forget that PvP is obviosly played by a lot less people than PvE. All the problems you already mentioned with PvP. It wil not only be appear on on PvE but be even quadrupled simply by the ammount of people affected haha.
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And for the 1 mil time. PvP is very different than PvE. In PvE it’s way more easier to blame the devs for making something overtuned when it’s not. It all begins with wanting the barrier to entry be more accessible, then start the demands for the rewards to be more accessible, next thing you know a +20 becomes the new HC dungeon difficulty and Billy over there starts screaming that dungeons are boring again, Joey has nothing to do because he is ilvl 1000 on day 3 of the patch, Sally is complaining that open world only gives ilvl 500 and she needs 501 to kill 10 boars fasters, so Blizzard decide to create the new Legendary dungeons with more mechanics and maybe Legendary+, and the whole cycle repeats itself with Bob complainig that we have too many difficulties.
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Regarding that marriage thing… hmm. I might have different thoughts! 
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Part 2: Because I can.
And for the people that I know will respond to this post with “bUt YoU dOn’T kNoW tHaT wIlL hApPpEn”. Yes I do, it has happened countless times. It’s even happening now with AI dungeons ffs, because getting automatically invited is not enough, you have to be instantly auto invited and have absolutely 0 chances of being kicked, 0 chances of failure because “leveling dungeons obv cater to the 1% WFR” (somehow).
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And then a certain poster will come along and say: “bUT I am SuRe it WOnt HAPPeN tHIs tIME! M+ is DIfFeRRenT!”
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“Everyone is a troll because they disagree with me and bring up my xp as proof I don’t know what I’m talking about”
“Everything killed WoW - SL best expansion”
“Endgame content is a mindset and you dont need gear for Mythic raiding, but I do because I want to collect my 15 rat tails faster in OW”
“Alliance bias because Jaina sneezed in the new cinematic and Thrall didn’t decapitate her on the spot”
Which one in particular are you referring to?
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Ok. I admit. This got me.
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They might be on to something with the Delves next expansion.
Lets see how people do if they have a solo endgame pillar where no other player can gatekeep them out of.
Most people will never be happy though, not even if they get BiS in the mailbox
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Yes delves could work, very early to say ofc but if it’s something like a mage tower/torghast/HV (even though I hated HV) I am fine with it, hell might even play them. But automated matchmakers for content that was clearly not designed for that, just because people don’t want to run their own key… nope, strongly against that.
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The problem is the deplete, they have to get rid of that asap.
They can try to make m+ better all they want, but the worst will never be removed as long as the deplete is still there.
Anyway, m+ is an underutilized system. They can do a lot more than just 8 dungeons.
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And this with I fully agree. I could understand LFG was a lifesaver for low pop realms. If somebody was stuck in a low pop realm, there wasn’t anything they could do about besides using your 
.
But now, some want an LFG because they “dont wanna use the multiple tools available to them?”… and some of them call us “entitled”.
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Last things i remember you could do Solo for a certain Reward were stuff like Visions and Troghast and man do i remember all the posts about those being to hard.
“Blizzard expects me to do 5 Mask Visions with affix as Class X/Y that’s not possible”
“Torghast is way to hard alone, nerf it!”
That quickly devolved into people looking for Boosts for that.
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While I used those same or similiar arguments before. This does make me wonder about delves.
Will there be demands on the forums asking Blizzard for the “delves to just keel over and give up their rewards pronto” posts? Lets see how Blizzard resists that pressure. Current tract record doesnt give much hope sadly…
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I think we can all agree that CRZ and sharding ruined the aspect of server communities right? But for all its faults it at least somewhat solved the problem of dead realms.
There was this one guy, by his own admission was “doing at least 1k dps on Sylvanas LFR” , was claiming Spreist MT was impossible, his thread went the usual route, half the people mocked him the other gave him tips and linked guides, the next day he posted he managed to clear MT and unlock his priest armor.
My point being 90% of the things GD complains about now is something than can be overcome with effort, time, trial and error. Getting declined in M+, run your own keys, sure it’s slower if you want to spam 1 specific dungeon for 1 specific item, but lets be real, what exactly are you in a hurry for? Last time I checked no one, and I mean no one here is a WF participant, hell we even have what 1 maybe 2 threads blaming the WFR for the starving children in Africa, covid and the recent wars. Now you are complaining that you aren’t getting invited, when you get invited I am 100% sure you will complain about “this horrible RNG system, that will be replaced by crafted items in a few weeks”, and then you will say “lol nothing to do, Df sux, WoW is dead”. It’s the abysmal merry-go-round of GD, and every single one of us knows it but some people are pretending like the world is falling every single time some presses X on their application and then come here and start demanding the whole game be changed because they wasted 15/30/60 min of their life instead of creating their own groups.
Oh and another thing, you just know that if both Volmir and Captainhuge ever liste their own key on LFG they wouldn’t pass on that 475 DH for that 440 feral druid.
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