M+ Toxicity and Account Security

Coming after a 15-day ban on my account due to toxicity in M+ and yes, I was suspended correctly. I’m trying to turn a new leaf, trying to stay away from toxicity but it turns out when you try to climb high, try to constantly do pug keys and constantly failing, the toxicity somehow always finds its way to you. Rarely ever, I’ve failed keys and the group left in good spirits. Mostly it’s a blame game and even for speaking out sometimes, you get singled out and get harassed all the way through till the key eventually fails. I have reported every leaver and toxic person to the point, I’m starting to ask myself, “Am I gonna get banned for excessive reporting”. I’ve been singled out to be harassed and wrongfully carry blame in some keys and getting reported thus banned is a nightmare scenario for me. The fear of losing my account has never been this high. I love WoW and to lose something you love over a single mythic plus key and single bad moment like I had, is just terrifying.

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I think you should reserve your Reports for truly extreme cases. Not just the times where someone is a bit rude or a bit mean.
Limit yourself to 3 reports a week, use them wisely.

Otherwise I would suggest simply giving up PuGGing entirely. The PuGGing community is not a warm and fuzzy place. Either develop thicker skin or find other social groups to play with, a guild or community maybe.

As Einstien probably didn’t say doing the same thing and expecting different outcomes is the definition of insanity.

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atleast that happened for you one time .
im getting banned for using my name every week even when its not against the rules :rofl:

yes it is.
after years and years and years of playing wow, i got banned for using this name multiple time and everytime i had to make ticket to bring it back,
or that time that i got banned for skinning because of the share skinning system.
(a thing that is part of the game )
this insecurity for my account is terrifying

Responding to toxicity breeds more of it.

You need to adopt “i don’t care” attitude. If you encounter toxicity simply don’t respond nor do anything. Don’t leave either. Simply continue to play while ignoring toxic behavior.
Say: " gg wp " after the run is over, and then leave.

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you can in fact preemtively counteact it actually. Takes alot of practice but you can spread positivity in order to keep the team from tilting in the first place. It’s harder in wow but possible.

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I report all toxicity, but it’s a personal thing, some people don’t care or dont’ report.

The worst thing you can do is get dragged into their toxicity. We’ve all been in those groups where two members are going at each other and you just know eventually one of them is just going to leave.

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Why?

I think its generally acknowledged when pushing people are there for score. If a key becomes not timeable then its reasonable to leave.

I think people like you see team members as the opposition with a “do unto others before they do unto you” kind of mentality.

Dunno what to say - get out of that mindset.

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and thats exactly why i keep telling people to play with disabled in game chats.

interactions with other players are just not worth to risk your account

learn to use pings and only communicate this way ,

It works to a point for me. If its just plain toxicity being flung around. Yeah “dont see evil, dont hear evil” approach.
However if its specifically targeted at me…even more so when I on super rare occasion tanking in a pug (DPS rarely if ever get called out…maybe if they are doing super low dps). Then I have zero tolerance policy. First peep = a warning. 2nd peep, I am out and go find another tank for your downgraded key.
Don’t care if this makes me a fragile snowflake or a diva or what ever. I will outright refuse to take any :poop: from some rando dps joe and you can sue me if you don’t like it.

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I think the language you have used in your original post here indicates your attitude going into these keys could use a rethink. If this happens from time to time you can draw it up to bad RNG, there will always be some toxicity. If it’s happening enough where you’re starting to worry about your account being compromised and banned then something is not quite right.

Maybe turn your attention away from such a competitive aspect of the game or set a RIO goal that prevents you bumping into this type of player. I’ve found between 14-15 seems to be the sweet spot. After this I have had people abuse me over my dps despite us even timing the key. Their ego’s get in the way especially if they are a premade with 2 or more people usually being arrogant to impress each other and most likely talking on discord.

Other than that do what has been offered up a million times and run the content with guild members only. You are in a guild that is competent at raiding so it can’t be out of the realms of possibility that 4 of them would like to progress in Mythic Plus throughout a season.

It does sound like you have an attitude problem though

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I don’t do M+ so I have no experience there. I used to do a lot of random bg’s for years and years tho as a healer, I have some experience with toxicity flung at me :wink:

Imho, responding in kind to it is a choice. You can choose not to, and not budge. It’s not an option for me, and that keeps it simple. Anything said in a hostile, degrading manner could be said in a friendly, constructive manner. If someone can’t be bothered to make this, in my eyes slight, effort, they usually lose out on my effort to try see their side. If their point was good despite the poor phrasing I’d consider it tho.

You can’t change others. You can’t defend yourself beforehand from potential attacks, it’ll turn you into a defensive hedgehog. You can learn to take it in with more patience and discipline, and let it slide off of you when it seems unnecessary and/or silly.

I may be wrong but I’ve noticed when people react this way very quickly and often, they’re usually not in a good place. In their life, in their general way of being with themselves. If that is the case, I’d suggest trying to figure out that part first. It’s far easier to remain chill when you’re ok with yourself :slight_smile:

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I am not arguing when there’s an obvious reason to leave, that’s when key can’t be timed. But leaving when someone died or, said something or, on the very first wipe. Then reporting becomes a reasonable action.

I’m not in any kind of presumptive mindset like you’ve mentioned other than pushing score and keeping it friendly.

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