O yeah, overgeared delverers will create some let’s say unusual moments.
Tho, i am presuming you will run your own keys with those tank alts?
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Yeah I will just be running my own key. It will be absolute mayhem because it will be impossible to tell anything with just in game score. I don’t use I.O because I can never be bothered upgrading it.
If someone says “4k main giga blaster” in their note I just invite them to see if they are telling the truth.
I’ll probably also try out Resto once I am giga OP as both my current trinkets also give intellect.
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It IS visible. Its 0 rating.
It isent. Its not distinct enough froma +2. And still really easy.
I dont see how you continue to regard M0 as a meaningfull way to aquire “experience”.
Honestly like this idea. I hate people who come into keys and don’t know jack-s and just bricks it for other people. Having some rating in 0s would at least show that they have been in the dungeon at least once before. Would also push people into doing World Tours and help other people learn the dungeons together.
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Add random mythic that starts at m0 and stays at 0 and rewards keystone based on performance.
No need for rating, you can get that at +2
Why? That’s for regular dungeons and heroics, mythic dungeons are something else and btw what do you think mounts are for? :*
You havent tried to join any +4 as lonely DPS with liek 640 itlv and low score lately did you ? 
You can see it instantly with claims like this 
M0 is trivial content…
and yet - most of players have problem completing both m0 and like m+2 and +3
its just minority who does anything higher.
most players never so anything higher then hc dungeons and lfr. never.
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Interesting observable phenomena that people who are referring to M1 and low keys as trivial are the same ones who were “sreaming” OMG they made M1 to be as hard as M10, OMG how will people learn, back in DF S4. 
I don’t really see that an M0 should give rating. Seems getting score in +2 is adequate as a base line to start.
And even before the sqush, most players that did engage with M+ (i.e >50%) never actually timed a 10.
That´s exactly why +/-10 was chosen to be the new M0.
And it´s also a good portion of why it seems at first glance that m+ participation is going downhill rapidly… the fact of the matter is that the same 50% of the players former 2-10 keys simply no longer appear in the M+ participation statistics, because they´re all sticking with m0 and never progressing further, or at the most into +2s and 3s. If you do the inverse math and double the participation number, running dungeons is more or less just as healthy as it ever was.
I´ve run random M0s under the current system, even back in DF when the squish first happened, that literally felt like I somehow signed up to carry a freaking 5 man /4 boss mini-raid and took 45 minutes to an hour to clear… SO, no insult to those players intended, it´s probably quite healthy for the M+ community as a whole that those players aren´t in the pool anymore.
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Amen 
M0 is not getting any rating or score because you can simply replace a person who, in your opinion, is not suited for the group they’re in. 
You cannot replace people in Mythic Keystones.
I think that is the reason you are not getting any score in M0 and I think you never will get any score for that content.
In M2 and higher, rating serves a purpose to show if a player has at least completed M2.
You don’t want to play with people who didn’t manage complete m2 in time.
I do want people who completed M1 in my M4/5s. exponent is 7% only and there is not much mathematical difference between M1 and low keys. To know dungeon is the most important.
While i am not really against 50 points for an M0, i am afraid it will be another requirement to get into +2’s. And i wonder why people sign up without any score for a dungeon for a +4/5 anyway. I always do all the dungeons on +2 first.
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if you consider loosing over 50 % of your customers healthy for any company ? blizz managers clealry took the same business 101 lessons as you did
in literlay any other company dude which lost the company so many customers as Ion did would be … well i cant even find analogy what that company woudl do to them .
Simply require people have the achievement for completing the dungeon in mythic, before they can enter the dungeon in mythic plus. Simple, effective, and doesn’t give rating to people who aren’t involved in the system.
But that´s exactly where the assumption is wrong, and your facetious little remark about business acumen is both wholly ignorant of the actual reality of the situation and in no way appreciated or necessary.
You either could not comprehend the post, or you are purposefully misconstruing it to troll. SO I will explain it again, just for you.
They didn´t “lose 50% of their customers” (the fact that nowhere near 50% of the playerbase ever engaged with m+ notwithstanding). Those 50% they “lost” are merely now engaged in a gamemode that we as players have no publicly available metrics to track participation in. That mode being M0.
If you sell 1 beer , then create an alcohol free version and 50% of your customers switch to that because they prefer not to be drunk, but you never had a system in place to track how many people are consuming it for the public to see, then you did not “lose 50% of your customers”… they merely no longer show up in other people’s public statistics on alcohol abuse.
Meh.
I think they should slice a good chunk of score off though. The scores are very high for a +2 because the +2 used to be a +11 or something.
I’d just slice all that off. +2 gives what +2 gave. It’s way too hard to find groups even for low keys before having run them all. It ends up where just having run each dungeon once is like 1500 rating. 
It’s pretty unnecessary ngl.
More importantly, why is there even a lockout on M0? I don’t get that. For the normal mode raiders? Okay, why is there a lockout on normal mode?
Lockouts for LFR, Heroic, and Mythic only would do this game well. And honestly I question LFR as well, but I want people to get out of that thing because it really doesn’t represent raiding well at all.