Mage Healer in Retail

Arcane Mage is a popular class fantasy. However, the rotation is pretty rough though. I wanna suggest to give mages a 4th spec, which uses a mix between Time Magic, earth, and Arcane Magic to conjure and heal. I think it’d be incredibly cool. Stole this idea from Season of Discovery. Thoughts?

Spell Breaker tank would also be very cool. Mages only having 3 dps specs is a bit wasted potential imo.

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Hate to break it for you, but the moment they introduces the evoker healspec… the chance of getting an time mage went to allmost zero.

Same will happen if they will ever introduce a evoker tank… than I can say my dreams of a shaman tank good-bye.

BTW a heal mage would use time and fire magic to heal. Earthmagic is more of heal shaman thing

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In the lore and the game btw there are mages forming earth. I forget the name, but it’s something with Geo.

Earth in general in the game is usually used for shielding/damage reduction, so that’s why I had this idea to include earth

Geomancers… but I would prefer not to mix too much of the same styles from allready existing staff, to keep it fresh.

Yeah and shamans allready do earth-magic for that.

but using time and fire magic to heal would have been new and exciting

Hmm, maybe a mage tank then? :sweat_smile:

Highly doubt that…

I would prefer removing evokers give mage the heal spec.
Make part of the dps evoker spec into a caster-monk spec.

Than we remove dh and give locks a proper tank spec.

If they will start fiddling with retail a lot of people would stop playing, that is why you have alternative in classic

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introducing a new spec wouldnt exactly be fiddling…

Imo creating a new spec instead pulling a new class out of their butts that is bad designed, would be way better.

Would be cool, if every class had 4 specs like druid at some point lol

Did evokers take anything from warlocks, like DK and dEMOn Hunters?

Ye, their DPS spot in m+ groups.

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It’s insane how much augmentation evoker ruined the game for dps players.

I wish this spec got deleted or so hard nerfed that nobody plays it. Sorry augmentation evokers, but man, blizzard really ruined the M+ scene.

I believe that’s where it is going anyway.
I don’t think that they introduced new roles in the classes in SoD without reason. An the reason doesn’t have to do anything with SoD. They wanted to see reactions.
In theory every class can play all roles lore wise…
For example , mage healer… a mage can create shields/barriers, enhance others and it doesn’t have to be anything with “time” in it.
Arcane Mending —>Arcane energies revitalizing the target for XXXX HP.
Cauterize —> Flames burn the wound stopping bleeding and infections .
Frosting —> Freezing pulses renew the damage on target over time , XXXX hp in 9 Seconds.
You get the point… Just name it somehow that makes sense and and hit an effect on it…
Cryotherapy spec… :smiley:
Or give a skill to be able to use Ice Block on other friendly players to give them immunity… and they gain frosting while in it. 2 min CD.
Well, if i can think 3 skills they can thing 30… so that’s that.

The point of the SoD experiment is… if you give dedicated classes extra role, will people use it?
It’s very different than the crowds that play multi-role classes. One of the reasons people pick dedicated classes is to get guarantee 1 good damage spec, and play as damage dealer… without the " can you make us a favor and change to healer because Nick (healer) can’t log for the raid today…" discussion in their menu…
And as i usually play classes that can heal or tank (Priest main, Druid, Monk , Dk, Lock the other classes i play in every expansion) , in 17 years in the game you don’t know how many times has happened and when i played warlock in guilds there was always the question if i can log something that can tank or heal , they knew my characters…

Nah, not at all. You already have holy palas and holy priests, restoration druids and restoration shammies. Temporal healer mage would be just a different type of healer than evoker is, even if they dwell in the same magic sources. Saying they can’t be is like saying demon hunters and warlocks can’t do Fel magic together, or rogues and warriors can’t both be melee physical DPS.

I can give you holy-priest and holy-pala having the same source… yet they function different.

Resto-shaman and druid only share a name… rest is different.

A mage healer that heals with time rewinding, would not only heal with the same magic but also it works exactly the same. i highly doubt they could make much more time spells that feel different.

Also evoker as a whole was a mistake.

AFAIK arcane is the basis of all magic. So arcane mage would be perfectly suited for it.

Nah, your lack of innovative ideas doesn’t mean the professional game developers would also struggle there. They’re more than capable to create unique abilities and playstyles when needed. And even if worst comes to worst, they could just steal from other games, would work splendidly too. I certainly don’t mind.

Also, “restoration shamans and restoration druids aren’t the same” isn’t as good of a point for your stance there. If anything, it shows that time mage healer and semi-time evoker healer can indeed work differently.

Have you played this game for the last few years?

The ‘‘professional developers’’ are bad at their job.

Resto-shaman and Resto-Druid only share name… rest is different.

Creating classes around a certain type of magic is different. Time-magic is about rewinding time to undo damage. The way this magic works is therefore limited. And thats where the problem starts. They would have to build multiple talents and abilities that work different to the allready existing healer, which i highly doubt they are capable of doing.

I personally wouldnt mind having two time healers, but not if they work the same.

Shielding and protecting would be a god idea ,just not healing ,mages,sorcs dont heal in general , mixing classes looses the classical pick a class for you significance

Honestly i’d be so up for a mage healing spec, i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. It’d be the only class i’d ever want to play.