Mage in 1v1

Hi,

I am rather a learning mage at the moment as I started this toon about two weeks ago. I like the Mage fantasy so decided to level one. Well, everything is fine until it comes to PvP. How are Mages doing in 1v1 PvP situations like WPvP?

I have little experience in PvP as Mage but have already played vs Rogue Outlaw, Rogue Assa, Shaman Ele, Warrior Fury, S. Priest etc. I must be doing something wrong because it is me who rather die :confused: I must admit I am in phase at the moment where my reactions are not fast enough. Rogues usually use significant damage on stun before I can react, then they just finish me. I am not sure about Warriors yet but I could die because of gear difference. I can kite them but they also have stun and a few things to close gap.

Last time it was Shaman Ele, which I couldn’t kill. After using all CDs and counterspell, she managed to interrupt me, use silence, then spam heal while my CDs were already gone. She also tried to fake cast so I would lose Counterspell. But frankly, I couldn’t even know which spell to interrupt, either healing or Lava! I killed the shaman twice out of 5, 6 times but she clearly owned me.

Any advice? I like PvP and don’t want to give up, although I come to conclusion maybe Mage is not for me :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not going to go on and say that I’m the mage 1v1 dueling expert, but since I have done some dueling on my fire mage I can tell you my experience. First, mages can win against a lot of classes, but there are some I wouldn’t even bother challenging. One of these is the warlock, I never managed to beat a single one who was decent and armed with equal gear. I’m sure it’s not impossible, but it is really difficult.

As for rogues, they weren’t the biggest of deals. When they open on you you can decide to use your trinket there and then, db and poly them, after which you will gpyro + ring of frost as it hits + gpyro, and this will either force a trinket out of them, and probably their cloak as well. At this point, if you can live long enough for cloak to go away and get a repoly on them after the DR, it is game over for them, you just gpyro them and then combust and get ignite going so they can’t vanish and run. Obviously it’s more complicated against good rogues, but that is how I dealt with most. Most important thing is to not die in a stun. Oh, and if they pop vendetta on you, block that.

Warriors should be pretty easy if you just poly them and then start spamming gpyro. There was only one warrior who consistently managed to beat me while dueling, but a better firemage than I beat him 100% of the time. Shadow priests, not sure, shouldn’t be too difficult. Just make sure to interrupt them while they’re doing their whole build up with a lot of damage (I think you should be able to out-grind them, oh, and if you just spam gpyro they can’t do that much about it). Same with shamans, never had too much trouble. Always remember: if you’re playing fire, poly them, and then gpyro + ring of frost + gpyro, that is an amazing combo assuming you pull it off correctly. And why is it so amazing? Because when the first gpyro hits, if you time it correctly you can immediately cc them again with the ring (needs good timing, like I said) after which you send a second gpyro at them, at which point if they don’t use cd’s then you can finish them off. Reset and repeat.

In WPvP situations you should still be fine as a mage. Most people you’ll be facing aren’t very good, meaning that the match-ups aren’t going to be super tricky. There are some classes I would avoid (warlocks), but assuming you get the right match up and know how to play, you can even 2v1 people with decent gear, which is what I’ve done, without being the best firemage pvp’er out there.

Oh, and if you’re playing a spec that’s not fire, I think your options are more limited. Frost excels at kiting, so try that (frost struggles against ranged). Arcane, I don’t know what they’re good at, never tried them.

PS: realize that this is just something that I wrote as it came to my mind, I did leave a lot out because otherwise this would be an essay, if you want more specific advice against a certain class, reply and I’ll be more detailed. Again, I’m not some rank 1 gladiator fire mage, but I think I can offer at least some useful advice.

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Mages are only good vs melees. You will lose to ALL casters/Hunter though. You have zero chance vs locks, eles, boomkins and hunters.

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Thanks for comments. I think this is more like lack of experience and lack of gear but I pretty much die to everything. I did try to pull combo Poly ring GPyro but well it did not work. Versus DK, I died when his health went from 30% to max. It’s insane how strong healing of melee classes is. I also tried DH, there was not even an option to execute that combo. He can quickly get in range, interrupt, use prison. I think the first thing would be to be able to endure the first attack but I can’t do that at the moment.

If you’re geared and know what you’re doing, you can win pretty much everything except tanks as fire.

Not true. You underestimate combustion and lucid dreams essence!

^ Fire is very strong against other ranged, people are scared of fire. Between greater pyro AND comb + lucid + mecha bracers they can get out amazing burst. They haven’t got the cc of some specs but they still have dragon’s breath, poly and ring of frost. If you land a cc or the other player runs out of kicks its game over. Poly>greater pyro> combust…

Frost is brilliant at kiting melee everything they do is a slow and you have shimmer. And you have a pvp talent that gives a good chance of rooting everytime you do dmg.

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I play Fire spec, and I agree with Minnji, that it is strong vs some classes/specs, but it does lack CC and makes it painful to survive encounters with well geared and skilled rogues or survival hunters…
I do however like melting Paladins :slight_smile: IF you can get a Greater Pyroblast cast out then it’s great, but with a such long cast time it’s sometimes virtually impossible, with some opponents (especially rogues) :slight_smile:
This spec also has decent mobility, and some CC, but it’s definitely difficult to kite Warriors as Fire , or to get away from a rogue.
I do struggle in 1v1 against some ranged classes - especially Warlocks (Destruction) and Beastmaster Hunters. (probably due to lack of skill on my part, or just simply panicking and then regaining my cool too late to turn the table… ).

I generally haven’t touched any other Mage spec since Legion (and prior I was always playing Frost… ).

Not sure how a skilled player actually dies to gpyros.

Spellsteal everything from enemy mage, specially the time rewind thingy
They for some reason never spellsteal you
Kill them with doubleshield
GG ez

Pretty much how my mage games go

Laughs in spell reflect

Ring of frost is good v beast mastery to take out there pets or frost nova or poly if they only have one. Their stun and their interupt are through their pet… i think? I know survival is, so if you cc their pet you halve their toolkit. There are a pain though.

Warlocks suck too, they have so many ccs and that shield is huge. If they are casting shadowfury blink away, los fear and chaos bolt if you can because you wont have enough interupts.

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