So id like to start by saying yea, i didnt play druid much during legion. I had no clue about magetower, just went in there with my warrior when it first released and got my butt handed to me… Basicly never tried it again.
I was so exited that mage tower was comming back, ive been itching to get warebear for the druid ever since i started seeing them in M+.
The new warebear form is basicly a set color and i could roll with that, the animations was what i was after… But now after what seems to be 2-3 days of hard grinding this encounter im pretty much at the end of my ability, im probably in the upper 20-30% when it comes to skill, i raid mythic and i do +15-20 keys weekly.
Still this undoable to me, i find it utterly disgusting that i “have” to try to find imbalanced gear to finish a challenge that is basicly overtuned to hell. The right move in this case would have been to release mage tower with the intention of 90+% being able to complete it.
In its current state ur catering towards people that:
A) Already succeeded in getting their challanges done in legion.
B) In the upper 1% of skill.
Whilst casual players such as myself and many others will have no hope of doing this at all.
They’ll likely tune it so it’s slightly harder than how easy it currently is while using old gear, then they’ll block using old gear. So it’ll work out pretty much the same difficulty level as it currently is for a person using old gear. In other words, anyone will be able to do it.
If they nerf it now it’ll be way too easy for people using old gear. The old gear mess just seems like a huge oversight.
I’m using horrible gear (but I’m a genius), if they nerf it and I get gemmed SoO gear it would be too easy for me to even consider doing.
I have 200+ attempts and I finally did it today, it’s doeable after a lot of practice and patient x.x! and Gold…
and I also sux very much at the game…never really done PVE or anything like that.
Finally done it, i literally had to go full cheese to make it. I think i was wearing one peice of my regular gear which was scale. Rest where optimal stats and sockets.
TBH it didnt feel like a “tank” challenge at all. Since P1 i was basicly owlweaving all the time and phase 2 is a dps race in bear form while trying not to get yeeted of the platform.
Ended up needing the stars alligned with only 1 infernal up when kruul landed and just killed off horrors. Played the cooldowns perfectly and somehow survived the 4th annihilate. After that i just chained orbs and prayed.
This is because the Mage Towers are overtuned as hell. The 60% hp buff made it mathemathically impossible to be done, even with cheese gear. You can’t kite the melee one for more than 1 minute, 1:15 if you are lucky. Then it literally charges in you with -60% movement speed. If you kill the melee the caster literally oneshoots you through all of your defenses. Affliction is absolutely impossible to be done.
Demo is the closest you can get to it, but the amount of overlaps, runes spawning outside the circle, the big valky running out of your range or line of sight with fear seem intentional bugs.
As about Destro - the amount of overlaps, ccs and damage are absolutely impossible to be managed + the damage buff you get oneshooted if you can’t interrupt the fel burst, which happens every 3rd cast, 4th if you have insane reaction timer and interrupt the very first cast mostly within 0.1 seconds after it starts.
As about Druid - I have only slands gear, the ad in p1 gets near me in no time on Balance, can’t kite throgh more than 3 stacks, 4 if I position super well and time all of my casts flawlesly. Didn’t try the rest of the specs.
You say the encounters are impossible, yet there’s people who have done it with and without cheese gear. There’s even videos on Youtube.
I don’t know the strategy for Balance, but I did the Twins boss as Affliction earlier today and it wasn’t that hard. Took me about 40 tries. With drums, pot, darkglare and dark soul you can burst down Karam pretty fast in the final phase before he gains too much speed. Raest doesn’t oneshot you. His shadow bolts hits for about 20% of your HP after he enrages. You survive by spamming agony on him and the adds to build up life drain stacks, and use phantom singularity on packs. You then slowly and steadily wither Raest down while kiting the adds and placing your pet on the circles. Use mortal coil, life stone, and unending resolve for emergencies.
Don’t know if it’s the intentional strategy or not, but it does work. Raest had a lot less HP on the PTR. During Legion you were meant to burst him down before Karam overwhelmed you.
As for feltotem, you use silence, mortal coil, fear, and stun to interrupt his fel burst. Use DBM to get the timers. Takes some practice to get the rotation right. I haven’t done this one because I think the tauren needs a HP nerf.
If you want to do something on druid, I hear Agatha as feral is the easiest. I can recommend the Ravaged Seed Pot trinket from the first boss in the Emerald Nightmare raid. It’s strong, short cooldown, and great for both Agatha and Sigryn. Try and clear Siege of Orgrimmar and Throne of Thunder to get gear with lots of gem slots.
It’s a good time to cancel the sub and just wait for 10.0. Just ask yourself after they reintroduced mt, if there is anything good coming up in 9.2 that’s worth to be played as casual for another 10 months
Well I was not impressed by Zereth Mortis, not at all. Their promo video made me laugh. Yes, things look pretty and polished, but they are not really innovative and such. I also feel like I need a break from WoW. Don’t know if I will return.
It’s a bit hard to have a general discussion of mage tower difficulty only based on guardian druid because I believe it is one of the harder specs. I think some of the issues with MT is;
Large difficulty discrepancy between specs
Sockets on gear have a large impact.
Some old enchants/consumables are overpowered.
Some old trinkets are completely busted.
It’s also a bit hard to talk about difficulty without addressing bullets 2-4 because some specs might be fairly tuned without bis gear/enchants/trinkets but too easy with them. Other specs might be too hard without them but pretty good with them.
With that said I personally feel it’s quite unfortunate that a lot of people just think mage tower is way too hard in general. I did the 7 challenges and thought 5 of them were fine (the specs I did them on were in all fairness prolly were quite easy ones though) and the 2 I thought needed a bit of adjusting were xylem P2 that had a too strict dps check and the tank one was in general too hard. Anyway, it is probably too hard on some specs but not on all of them. There probably could have been quite a lot more of MT tuning for the specs that are currently too hard to help solve this.
The reason as to why I feel that MT should not just be nerfed in general is because there are no other solo content in the game that is challenging. If you want easy solo content there is lots of it and I really enjoyed having the chance of doing some challenging solo content. I think it has a place in the game. I also think there should be more “medium” challenging solo content (which is maybe what you are asking for). If we would have something like that mage tower in the future, I dunno, maybe different difficulty for the challenges could be an idea…
Hey! I have tried multiple times, got to burst down Karam, but Raest literally oneshooted me evey single time.
Thanks for the advice, though. It is worth its weight in gold!
The other thing that discouraged me was that theu overtuned it when we entered week 3. I didnțt have the money to pay my sub and try iy until then. I have seen a lot of players oneshooting most of the challenges with like 60% of the hp they have now, well a bit ocver that.
I’ve currently done…Agetha, Destro, Twins, Guardian Druid I did the first week, Healer one, currently stuck on the Ench Shaman and the Havoc Demon Hunter, and I’ve just kinda stopped now, I am just not gonna keep going, I’ll either try next time it’s up (6-7 months from now KEK lol xD) maybe I’ll have some luck then.
enhance if u dont get a nasty overlap of runes and valkyrs its fine, save the defensive for the overlap, i stacked haste and versa, think the fight lasted 4min for me with low budget gear (my shaman is lvl50) and i was only 2 target cleave, only later on doing other classes i got more confortable with 3 target cleave. important hex sigryn before she finishes the cast,hex as soon as u hear “blood of my fathers”, this way she doesnt get the buff and u can break CC and keep 3 target cleave.
seed pod on all 3 is huge dmg and it also gives u leech, i used an arcano crystal because i didnt want to have random dmg break sigryn but now i know, iskar intelect trinket (wich i used as ret pala) would have been better as they all stacked, or old good mecha dragoling for aoe breath
Currently some MT challenges are the hardest content in game at this time.
I just wished they advertised it that from the start.
Ive seen top of the world leading players streaming their 7/7 challenges for the mount. Even giving up on some of them and switching to the ”easier” challenge to obtain the mount.
I saw venruki scream and almost having a mental breakdown from the ”easiest” tank challenge.
Mind u these people actually game for a living.
Imagine people with normal lives wasting all that time when they didnt even give us artifact weapon looks from it.
Some people have to take several Hours of bashing their head against challenges because of rng in some fights bad tuning and missing powers. Some people realized you could farm OP gear and make it easier. Still hours spent in my mind. Meanwhile my friend jump in to a class he never plays double enchanted crusader on weapons and killed Agatha on third try.
What a disaster of a system i can understand why people are angry and they have the right to. Worst thing is blizzard sold alot of token so they actually got rewarded for this bullshiet
Here you go . Use this guide to get better in game.
If you want skin you need to get better - noone can carry you in mt like they can on raids and m+ making you assume you have better skills then you really have
