Mainspec/offspec loot

Since the new grouploot has been introduced I have not been able to win a single roll in raids. I keep losing to mainspec rolls, even when I am in my current spec and the item in question is an upgrade for my mage. From rings to trinkets to normal gear to tierpiece items.

So how does this exactly work? Will healers and tanks always win rolls over dps? Why cant my mage have mainspec rolls?

" * We also have mainspec and offspec functionality built-in, which changes based on the current loot spec you set.

** Main spec takes priority, then Off spec, then greed. So while a Ret paladin can’t off-spec loot a shield away from a main-spec roll from the Tank, anyone rolling greed could never win it over them. This also means that if you swap specs for a specific fight, like going Holy, you can still main spec roll for your desired items if they come from that boss without having to worry about hurting yourself by being flexible to your group."*

This is what the bluepost said, but in practice it isnt working that way? How in gods name can I get a piece of loot to drop for my mage?

The new system has made it incredible hard, frustrating and borderline stupid to get gear upgrades.

Please help

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Im confused to what you mean here.

Tanks and healers are prioritised in rolls?.

Yes, that is the feeling I have. They are prioritised.

I cannot get a mainspec roll off even when it should.

I pressuming they cant main specc roll on cloth and stuff tho? Im guessing this is mostly a trinket / weapons issue??

Yes, on cloth items they get mainspec and I dont. They just even mainspec won on a tierpiece item. How can that not belong to my mainspec?

Im more than confused

Imma pressume this is a bug. Or atleast pray it is, theres no way surely a prot warrior should be able to need roll a cloth item

No, that wasnt what I meant.

If a priest healer rolls on tierpiece he/she will get mainspec roll and the mage doesnt.
Same goes with every cloth item or trinket or whatever.

That would indeed be insane if a warrior can roll need on cloth.

Point remains though; why can a cloth healer get mainspec roll and other cloth wearing role cant?

game gone this far to incentivize main roles maybe i guess… it’s going to kill raiding though if thats intentional.

Surely this is not working as intended.

I think you just got Unlucky, tierset pieces is bad example because its Equal value, also you cannot judge any of it in SL, sl got it added retroactively, meaning SL was not designed with it in mind, and tier set tokens were not also designed like that.

Main spec is your active spec

Offspec is not your main spec.

Has nothing to do with Tanks or Heals.

Thats nonesense.
This is only the case if you presently have an Tier set item equipped yourself with higher ilvl. (I even think your need gets disabled?)

As a mage you can even roll Need on a pure heal proc trinket.

The system sucks, but it doesn’t suck in the way you describe it :rofl:

But it does say so in chat when the rolls are finished. I dont get the mainspec roll and the others do.

I can roll need ofcourse but mainspec is taking prio when I am also a mainspec thats the issue im raising.

You have a screenshot of a main spec role?

Rolling High is just RNG.

The chat doesn’t say: Mainspec roll 80, Offspec roll 60.
It’s all RNG.
If the guy rolls higher, he rolled higher :man_shrugging:

Im very positive with DF and gladly awaiting it. But this feature with group loot is a big let down for me. Its one of the few things I cant support in this game at this point. I guess it wont change at this stage tho.

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The chat does say mainspec. I have a lot of screenshots that I can post if I am allowed.

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