Make Enh shaman great again

Classes Shaman
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Just tried and leveled my beloved enh shammy in this expansion and i was so shocked and depressed how it doesn’t perform well in pvp like it used to be.
To be honest I would like to see old enh shammy comeback the one real shammy “hybrid” class when we had flame, frost, earth shocks, strong offheals, windfury enchant, usefull totems and etc.
Legion shaman was ok to me even though i did not like the rework. I raided a lot with him in Night Hold and was runing mythic + and it was entertaining enough to stick for some patches
In the end i would say that Vanilla, TBC, wotlk and even MoP enh with insta lightning bolts and elemental blast felt like playing big ball busting class called shaman
Bring back usefull totems like windfurry or spell power totem, so we would be considered in top 3 guild rosters like Method and etc.

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Nowadays half of the posts here are about enhancement being sucky. Both in class fantasy and gameplay wise. I’m sure blizzard is also aware of the problem but they mentioned many times that there wont be huge changes mid expension.

What they will do about the spec will ofc remain a mystery untill 9.0 preperation patch. By that moment it will be too late for us to whine about what we dont like and we’ll wait for patch 10.0 like in previous expension :smiley:

They also said they dont want suggestions like “buff x” and “bring this ability”. I guess what we can do here is explain what isnt working in the spec for us. What doesnt feel “fun” etc.

Main points i get from posts here for enhancement is:

  • No burst damage
  • Low survivability
  • Clunky rotation

These are ofc very abstract forms of cries. People do get into specifics but we dont know how specific we need to be for blizzard to acknowledge it.

My specific points are:

  • Flametongue / frostbrand application playstyle removal!
  • Reducing number of sources we deal our damage with
  • A little more emphasis on ranged damage dealing (reintroduction of shocks basicly)
  • A name change for the spec to implement a better form of class fantasy (this would indicate a bigger overhaul like outlaw recieved)

All this falls down to how much resource blizzard want to spend on 1 spec out of 30. And i dont think it will be much. Like in other expensions. This sounds childish but i dont think anyone in blizzard with decision making power cares for enhancement’s playstyle.

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I would say they have more inconsistent damage to burst. Enhancement Shaman RELIES on stormstrike procs. It’s their hardest hitting ability. If you don’t get that proc, then you’re hit with point 3, a clunky rotation. Alternating rockbiter, flametongue and lava lash does feel clunky, and you’ll be tickling enemies nutsacks.
Low survivability, yeah, I can get on board with that. Let’s take a look at their “heal”. It heals for way less than flash of light for example, and it dips into their offensive resource pool, Maelstrom.
On top of that they lack the defensives other classes have. Let’s take another look at ret paladin, shall we? They’ve got a shield that grants them damage immunity, they’ve got a shield that incinerates people who attack it, so they generally leave you tf alone. They also have an ability that not only significantly increases their damage, but boosts their healing as well.
Even their base CC is pure trash. Hex has a cast time, which just feels awful as a melee character. You need to use the talent sundering for a decent one. Like if you’re not picking sundering I don’t know what to say. Why do they have to waste a talent just or a CC? Don’t they have enough crap to deal with.
Then there’s totems. They rely quite heavily on these in PvP because they do provide some nice benefits, but the totems health pool is tiny and can be easily taken out just by spitting on it.
I feel like flametongue is like assas rogue’s poisons, but instead of applying it to our weapon for a long duration and forgetting about it, they have to remember to reapply it every 16 seconds, and they need a target to do so.

Enhancement Shaman is the most horrible spec this game has right now. For anyone thinking of making one, do yourself a favour and go with a ret paladin or fury warrior.

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We need old ride the lightning back. Even with chains of sb procs ss doesnt hit that much. Dks hp doesnt even move with high armor

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The only big problem with enhancement is defensives.

It’s certainly not clunky and it does good damage.

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Why everyboddy keep saying dmg is not problem ofc it is. Do you guys count in fork lightning dmg which does nothing and doesnt win you games. All i see from high enh shaman 2v2 streams their dmg is lower than dks rogues and warris bıt they have ms or necro. Dont get fooled with recount or end game score board

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Hello buddy,

you are not alone. There are many classes that are having issues atm and feel clunky. The class design surely is not good this expansion but understand there will be no changes made during an expansion. Either play a different spec or wait until classic or the new expansion releases.

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Hello there,

i have been playing Enha since end of WOTLK - ICC. And nowadays comapring to it and its golden era - Cata MOP - is a big p… .

The only good thing in BFA enha shaman is Windfury - its passive, not a talent nor weapon enchant.

This Flametongue - nothing.
Frostband - useless even with talent Hailstorm.
Crash Lightning aoe? Whats that?

Rather Flameshock with Lava Lash Cata MOP combo when you spreaded Flameshock form the target to another 4 foes in 12 yards. And Fire Nova was binded to Flameshock.

THAT WAS an AOE.

And give back Old weapon enchants!!!

Frostband on main hand and Flametongue on offhand with actual windfury as passive.

Have fun, strong health and good luck.

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We also deal 0 magic dmg now. Lava lash dmg is too low in pvp. And pp build is a meme in pvp also. We just tickle locks dks and warriors. We realy need old ride the lightning

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this spec cannot be saved in current design.
a band aid would be to make SS nature dmg and benefit from mastery, also buff healing surge that is selfcast.
Everyone complained on big off heals, but why would you nerf selfheals as well. No thought in the process, typical blizzard

just for the record with ilvl 420, my stormstrike hits for 5k mh 2k offhand on a resto druid with 300k hp
yup dmg is fine i guess

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Yea ppl looking at recount with full of piss dmg of forked lighting and say ye enh dmg is sick but is is not. With old ride the lightning that piss dmg can be on our main target. And they can nerf it by half if we are op again

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yea for whatever reason I often read here “dmg in pvp is not our problem”
Actually i think we are like the worst spec atm. No dmg, no def, no escape, no control
everytime I join a bg or something and I fight a demon hunter, I cannot even lower his HP below 90%, he heals more than I do dmg lolz

Seriously how is my main dmg source hitting for less than 10k? like wtf

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with 425 ilvl i get owned by palas warrs DH and warlocks with 25 less ilvl than me, i wnder wtf are those scum devs thinking about! probably too busy about how will look the next expansion mage table!

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guess a dh will also kill you in ilvl 300 :sweat_smile:
class design is just great

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You really need to love enhancement to play a spec performing garbage like this.
This simple changes would make enhancement viable in 3v3 arena:

  • Ride the Lightning If there are more than 2 enemy within 8 yards When you cast Stormstrike, you also cast a Chain Lightning on the target.
    Otherwise, you conjure bolts of lightning to up to 2 furthest enemy within 40 yards.

  • Passive 10% damage taken reduction.

  • Astral Shift can be used while stunned.

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i doubt that would be enough to make the spec good.
would rather suggest mage stormstrike nature dmg as a band aid fix and remove the -% pvp modifier on self cast healing surges. Also replace astral shift with shamy rage (incl. magic dispel) also let wolves heal again, right now this ability might not even exist

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I don’t wan to sound rude or anything like but, you realize shaman enhancement is garbage since lich king right?

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since i play enh since tbc, I cannot confirm this.
enh was always somewhat handicapped in comparison to rogue or mage but it was still fun to play and you could hold yourself, but bfa completely ruined that as well.

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Well , I also play since 2014 :slight_smile: this is my second account hehe the old one was a famali share ;)!

Shaman really got forgotten! Everytime we have something good other players don’t know how to fight against it or they don’t even want to find a way to turn around it! And they come here to the forums and cry as much as they can!

Blizzard listen to it and blizzard nerfed us so bad that this class is always behind everything else you can play with on this game.

Really sad! ;(

I just don’t understand how hard can it be to pick up old spells, effects from legendary a and give them to us as talents for more versatile game play or even baseline or talent traits! And make this class viable :slight_smile:

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