Dear fellow WOW players.
Is it just me or should Blizzard make some kind of bracking system for Random PVP based of ilvl. I know Rated Battleground are in place, but that’s a dead mode. I just litterally do pvp for grinding battlefield master and therefore trying to win but most of the time before the Random Battleground even starts and the average ilvl is 420… u can already see and tell it’s lost = ITS A FACT U NEVER WIN THEN!
I think it’s good to see new players join, but I will not just waste my time, when it’s already lost. Im so sick of people not knowing what to do, cause they think “ooh pvp is so fun” when they only play pvp in wow and nothing else. I get the point of if you do pve then you shouldn’t make so hard a difference in PVP. But thats the way it is now, HIGHER ILVL = HIGHER WIN CHANCE: On that point I rly don’t care if people have a hard time acknowledge it. If I take more time farming and grinding everything, then I should be better than people that only plays pvp. If they wanna pvp they should get through some kind of requirements like bracking with ilvl and even get to learn what the objectives are before joining PVP. Im sry if this sounds hard or even stupid for someone. But the game IS a MMORPG.
There’s two ways to go about it:
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Make the bracking system even in random battleground, when pvp gear is so RNG based of getting, that it shouldn’t even be farmed in the first place. Yes the pvp Q’s will be longer, but more worth than waiting 30 min for a game a 20 min in it just to get 50 honor and lose.
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JUST GET THE PVP VENDORS BACK as the good ol’days where u could decide and get gear that way.
If you have pros and cons about this article, then please tell 
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So, if one player play only pvp, then he has more time, THAN YOU, farming and grinding pvp, then he should be better than you in PVP.
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It ain’t working like that in PVP, by the way gear catching up is so RNG than in PVE. If they had PVP vendor, then yeah he would be better maybe not objectives, but on gear wise then yeah
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Pvp vendor will not be ok, unless we have a pvp stat or ilvl scaling like in WOD.
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I see the idea of a pvp stat like in MoP, if I remember correctly.
But I don’t like the idea of ilvl scaling in PVP. Cause of the way if someone have grinded 100 hours in pvp but he is only as good as someone who played a week in pvp… 
That’s shouldn’t be balanced so everyone are approximately good. When there’s a clear difference from a veteran and a new player.
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In random BG-s there is another few problem - First afker and half-afkers. I qued today for epic BG, peoples even don’t want do something, they qued for daily rewards. Second - secondary stats difference PvP min/max guys vs PvE min/max guys. Third - class difference. 4-th - healers. Actually u can find tones of problems. And for every 1 you can cr8 a thread and call for solution.
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Why do you want ilvl brackets?
I assume it’s for a more balanced bg, but you simultaneously think you should be stronger than PvP’rs because of all the other content you play?
”I deserve to be stronger than you & placed into a leet bracket because I want balance”
I honestly don’t think brackets are a terrible idea for balance (giving lowbies&nubs space to learn / PvE heroes space to flex).
But my reservations would be:
- Queue times
- I kinda like that we’re all mixed in Randoms. Surely whilst both sides are subject to lowbies, (relative)balance is maintained?
- I think that brackets based on ilvl fosters the idea that gear>skill.
How much gear do I have to farm before I’m ‘good’ at PvP?
- It feels like people who should be in rbgs, are flooding into Randoms & trying to kick out people who can only play Randoms, whilst complaining no-one wants to play rbgs.
Rather than ilvl brackets, I’d prefer to see leet heroes back in rbgs, reduced disparity between ilvls & attitudes change to be more accommodating to weaker members of random teams.
…by which you mean, growing ones character is a core part of the genre? Wouldn’t ilvl brackets negate the whole point of growing super-strong?
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Random bg is all about having fun. If you can’t have fun with players with different gear then don’t play it.
If you want high ilvl group to run bg----> make your own group and run rated bg. Maby they should add some reward for rate bg so people would run it. Remake old hwl/gmarshal sets? I would gladly run more rated if those sets were rewards by rating. 1.8k rating for basic set and real hwl set for 2.4k rating.
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so i just dinged 120, i have 70k hp and i can’t wait to experience ~F U N~.
i’m just giddy at the thought of joining a bg, oh man, it’s going to be so much ~F U N~!!!
ok, after a 10 minute queue, arathi basin pops up, oh my god, fun is about to start!!! i rush gm like any pro player but as soon as i enter combat i die from dh cleave. oh well, it happens. oh boy we ress and here we go again. this time i die from a .5 second chaos bolt. after dying 12 more times, i realise i spent more time dead / at the graveyard than actually playing the bg. BUT THIS IS ~F U N~.
i queue again, more ~F U N~ to be had in bg graveyards await me on my adventure!!!
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Here is perfect examble of person who normally ruins bgs.
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Imagine all these random bgs tryhards playing againts similar geared players 
Also ques
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Imagine saying that on pvp forum 
This is exactly why rated bgs are dead ding dong. 
Maybe let people having fun? And let them play this game how they want especialy when we are paying for it?
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just scale everyone to same ilvl hps.
and make difference on rated places.
I mean I dont have problems fighting with high gear people. Scale wont make problem. It will help people wont leave bgs when they have 5 100k hp guys in raid.
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Well logical move will be exactly opposite and have scaling in rated content. But i think its bad idea since people love to crush noobs and when they will not be able to do that they will realise they are bad and stop playing. Also its mmorpg you have to progress somehow…but let us progress in pvp thats all people want. So simple as that.
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They just need to add a min ilvl requirement for you to click ‘Join’ …
Like random dungeons have.
I would say at least 420 ?
Its nothin special and it can be achieved quite fast with casual activities .
Anyway it doesnt matter now since expansion is over.
This should have been implemented from start.
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Blizzard think if they include low ilvls on lfr raids and hc dungeons it will cause problem to players.
But these 80k-110k hp guys cant do anything on pvp either. Infinite stars etc these are passive damage. You dont have to hit 80k hp guy to kill him. It randomly procs and kills those guys.
They need to bring vendors back with low currency items. So these people will queue bg with low ilvls but it shouldnt take long for them to go 420 ilvls etc.
People leave bgs when they see 5 people 100k hp guys.
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wont work as the bg queues would go from, 11-15 min to 30-45 mins due to the horde/alliance imbalance
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What they really should do, is make you able to queue for rated BG’s solo - with ilvl restriction. And just leave normal Random BG as it is - but with scaling like we had in legion.
Then casuals/low geared people will have their fun, queuetimes would go down again. tryhards can go battle in Rated BG’s which would come to live again, espcially if they make some worthwhile rewards - and everybody will be happy (if they close the loophole which allows premaking that is)
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why
why
why
can somebody please
i beg
you
explain to me
why are you joining a battleground
with 200k hp?
why
why
why
?
?
?
i might be having a mental breakdown after losing so many games because of premades and undergeared people
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Its random bg ffsake. When people dinged they have 50k hp so 200 k is actually okayish. I won many bgs as 200k healer and trust me people were so excited because i was only healer…Rewards from bgs are like 430 right? 
Only because pvp wanabees tryhardig in 480 gear in randoms doesnt mean its standard. Also you can join as mercenary you have all the benefits you can posibly have so stop crying.
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