Marksmanshid

where MM damage?

aimed shot 2s cast 10s cd for wet noodle dmg,
rapid fire useless without doubletap active
arcane shot useless without precise shots,
killshot hits less than aimed shot
steady shot lol, have to literally waste 1 talent point to make it worth having out on the action bars
wailing arrow 2s cast 1min cd, hits about the same as Aimed shot, little less. had a silence, got removed from pvp (???)

no mobility (compared to other mobile casters), when our class is known for the entirety of the game as the ranged mobile class. just line the 2s cast. but oh we have Trueshot our big CD, makes cast time go to 1s, but actually, you dont have to line cause the dmg is non-existent

the reason for my rant is that MM has been completely forgotten and useless since Legion with the exception of last tier of Shadowlands where a tier set made us playable.

please dont let this be another expansion where MM is left out entirely. and dont tell me a tier set will make MM playable. Tier sets are suppose to complement the class/spec, not make it or break it.

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MM damage is great (in PVP at least)

You can kill fully geared players solo easily. Your gear is quite low though, maybe that’s why do don’t feel the damage yet. Keep going and get full conquest, upgrade it a few levels and it will be much better.

Double tap from stealth > chimaeral > death chackram > explosive > rapid fire is about 150k dmg in a PVP setting. People need CDs or they die immediately.

As MM you have 2 burst windows:

  • one is with death chackram + double-tap rapid fire
  • the other is with Trueshot
    You should rotate between them.

Currently the empowered Arcane Shot crits for about 25K with on-use trinket, and Aimed shots crits for about 45K on cloth classes and about 25-30K on high armor classes. This is comparable to the burst of most classes atm.

Mobility is quite high too. However, most of it comes from “non-mobility” abilities:

  • 25 sec Tar Trap (4 sec root, does not DR with other roots)
  • 25 sec Steel Trap (8 sec root, undispellable)
  • 30 sec Bursting shot knockback
  • 70% Concussive shot slow with talent

Use these to gain distance

Rotate between Disengage with Posthaste and Master’s call to break roots/slows. Do not use these together. Save Aspect of the Cheetah for Master’s call when you really need to escape.

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Tuning is ongoing. It could end up the best spec in the game by DF release we have no idea.

Idk why you think it has no mobility though. Even with aimed shot we are one of the most mobile/highest DPS on the move ranged specs in the game.

what is chimaeral? you dont mean chimeara shot do you?

The pvp talent Chimaeral Sting. It crits for about 15K nature damage and slows the target by 90% for 3 sec. This allows you to use 2 globals while they are slowed this way. Then it silences for 3 sec and this is when you start the double-tap-empowered rapid fire.

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MM damage is nice, in pvp at least. But I don’t like too many cast spells and waiting for procs to be instant compared to WOTLK.

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Also I don’t use pet for bgs for now.

Yeah but even if it is really good for pvp its unplayable for pve right now. And if they want to nerf for pvp They can just nerf pvp only. It makes no sence becouse a class is good at pvp its fine. Think about Retri pala geting buffed becouse he was bad in pve. That was a poopshow from pvpers. You could hear them scream from the moon XD.

absolute garbage in pvp and pve on prepatch and beta just recieved a 15% nerf to aimed shot that was completely unjustified blizzard devs are some of the most incompetent i’ve ever come across.

I fell in love with hunter way back in wotlk…Been playing them ever since. If blizz is going to not care about hunters in general going into the new expansion. I’m kinda done…

This post didn’t age well

MM Hunter is a wet noodle in PvP

and further nerfs on wednesday GG blizz…

Yeah, sadly…

At the start of the patch damage was quite good, after the 15% nerf (right now) still ok, just not as the OP classes at the moment, but after another 15% nerf on aimed and 10% on rapid fire next week, we’ll be in a spot where Arcane shot will outperform Aimed shot and Aimed shot will be used mostly to empower 2 arcanes. Quite sad

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