Melee pressure getting nerfed or not?

  • privately sends me messages on Twitch and then interprets linking a public tweet that appears on a social network as ‘stalking’
  • ‘128 iq’ btw

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Aw, he’s still in shock that somebody can achieve more than most ever will irl. The offer is there to show you all my books man, I’ve got a few I can send you to sell on if you’re struggling with the rent and Christmas coming up. Let me know.

?? I don’t know anything about anyone other than what YOU have messaged to ME and what appears PUBLICLY on social media :rofl:

Aw mate come on stop acting tough, the only things you can give a good beating to are egg whites.

dont let this petty argument distract you all from the fact that ret paladins are wizards

scardrex would say warrior is find l2p if mortal strike was a 1 shot ability hes one of the most bias players i’ve ever seen on these forums.

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Really? Aug can facetanks every ww dmg thanks to 40%+ armor and since you hit often due dw you take quite a lot of dmg in return as you are hitting into thorns. I mean, when you are able to ever hit him with perma freedom on his fly. Ele is basically the same, also high armor values and enough root/knockbacks to destroy your setups.

The only caster that might suffer versus ww are shadows and locks, if they don’t know how and when to port. So for a shadowcleave abuser it might seems that ww is overtuned, but when you play the spec yourself, you will realize how poorly designed it actually is.

But most wws would also prefer magical instead of physical dmg, so they could pressure high armor targets as well!

I mean, as a shadowcleave abuser you clearly have seen your destro hitting 3 cbs back to back to back each for 150k+, landing in basically 2 globals from up to 40 yards range.

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Shadowcleave is with an UH DK. I also didn’t play with a Destro Lock, I played with a Boomkin.

And Boomkins don’t?

Imagine if WW’s could mirror his port on the Warlock’s, would be nice.

Oh and for the statistical record, since it is literal proof of my point:

Above 3k in 3v3 EU, WW Monks have higher representation than every single caster other than Ele, Fire and Aug (if you want to count Aug as a caster), same trend at 2900+.

So if WW is only good into Shadow and Lock casters, why is it more represented than every caster except 2 at the highest ratings, 3 at a reach?

Not like I care about Destro, but if they’re so potent, why are they not even in the top 15 represented specs above 3k? Is this a case of ‘the higher you go and the better players are, the worse certain specs are’? - no, surely not for the anonymous classic character…

Unholy dks too.

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Shadowcleave / Shadowplay. There are multiple names for comps, some are the same. You aren’t the first guy naming comps and wont be the last one.

You played shadow/boomkin? Not going to trust you.

Imagine he is doing that and gets no benefit from it, as the lock has freedom + sprint after port and his port has maybe half of the cd compared to ww port. He is also risking to just die behind a pillar, nowhere close to his healer los.

What is that statement?!

Winter is actually a season with mild temperatures, if you don’t compare it with spring, summer or fall.

Lets look into it:

class count
aug 22
mage 20
rogue 19
ele 16
feral 15
war 11
ww 9
ret 7

More than double as much mages and rogues, 2/3 more ferals, etc. Half of the caster classes have 80% to 145% more representation than ww. I agree, ww is clearly a joke into caster and need buffs!

it is like talking to a brick wall trying explain warrior players that arms is one of the best performing dpses

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Nobody calls Shadowcleave ‘Shadowplay’. If you do, you’re calling it the wrong thing.

What are the multiple names for Rogue Mage Priest? What are the multiple names for Jungle? What are the multiple names for Scatter? What are the multiple names for Thug? What are the multiple names for Cupid?

? Yeah, that really OP comp consisting of a Shadow Priest that doesn’t enter the top 15 of spec representation after 2600 and Boomkin that doesn’t enter it after 2700.

WW is more represented at 3k rating than -

  • Frost Mage
  • Affliction Lock
  • Destruction Lock
  • Demonology Lock
  • Shadow Priest
  • Arcane Mage
  • Balance Druid
  • Devastation Evoker (if you’re calling Aug a caster, then Dev is, too)

So, WW is outperforming 8 casters, and was outperformed by 3 casters. How can a spec that is ‘only good’ into 4 out of 11 casters be outperforming 8 of them?

You link these random tables all the time, when you can just look at this and see that WW is outperforming all but 3 casters at the highest ratings:

https ://www.arenamate.net/?realm=&rating=3000&ladder=3v3&faction=

10 WW’s in the top 50 of Solo Shuffle as well, btw

https ://drustvar.com/leaderboard/solo?region=eu&sortby=rank

plot twist we are all wizards except warrior mains who only swing their swords?

Wait til the Arms Warriors find out that they were also the 2nd most represented DPS at 3100 rating as well :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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all i can say is, it is like talking to a brick wall trying explain warrior players that arms is one of the best performing dpses, im so bored of this topic i cant take them seriously anymore

And now we have a guy hiding behind a Classic character trying to justify WW Monk like there aren’t 10 of them in the top 50 of Shuffle and outperforming all but 3 caster specs at the highest rating in 3s loool. These people are funny.

ww was also one of the most busted dpses of season 2, it was among them clearly, statistically and to any with common sense. i hope no one try diminish that :eyes:

The guy that plays WW but is hiding behind his Classic character is. What do we reckon, did he get high rated and is delusional or is he low rated and delusional?

i have no way of judging anything from hidden accounts or people posting from classic characters so i cant put any value on them, theres just no way of telling if they even play

but if they played ww and spammed shuffle with it i imagine they enjoyed season 2 by very much on it, just like arms or retri players. and they all 3 were just as good for 3v3 comps aswell

I will call comps how I like. Its not wrong to do so, there is no official list of how comps have to be named. But in terms you like that more: LPX

RMP, CC SPAM, stun for everyone, no skill cleave, as (annoying :poop:) and so on. Depending on their specs you can also go deeper into it, calling it fire sub for example.

DHX for example. But like I said, there isn’t an official page of how comps have to be named.

I am sure you find melees that are doing more worse than shadow/boomy. So what is actually your point? That ww isn’t/wasn’t bad? We don’t need to argue about that, ww was good. But an overtuned joke into every caster? Gimme a break!!!

And 9 caster specs outperformed Assa Rogue, so are those 9 caster specs all overtuned? Or did the rogues just play specs that were obviously better? :slight_smile:

DPS Monks can only play that spec, Mages on the other hand can play every spec because all of them are great! Fire seems to be best with rogue, but Frost and Arcane are also great with good comps.

It is, if I advertise a group saying ‘LF Shadowplay’ and a DK signs up, they’re not getting an invite, because that’s not the comp I’m looking for.

Not the name of a composition.

Not the name of a composition.

Not the name of a composition.

Not the name of a composition.

Who the hell is calling Jungle ‘DHX’ LMAO.

Sure, at 3k the melees that performed worse than Shadow and Boomkin are DH’s, Assassination, Fury Warrior, Enhancement and Frost DK. They were outperformed by Arms, UH, WW, Sub, Outlaw and Ret.

Why did it outperform all but 3 of them then, with 1 of the specs being piloted by a bot all season? If Shadow Priest was outperforming all but 3 melee specs, you wouldn’t conclude that Shadow was good into melees? Is that your logic?

They’re stronger than Assa, clearly. And yes, casters are extremely good into Assassination. See, it’s not hard to not be a biased clown and divert from your agenda.

Just like WW is factually and statistically stronger than all but 3 caster specialisations. This the beauty of long seasons that don’t see any tuning for a while - a pattern and a trend is established. WW Monk outperformed all but 3 caster specialisations. Clearly, it is excellent against casters.

Why did you ignore my point that there are 10 WW Monks in the top 50 of Shuffle as well, btw?

Why can’t a single one of you melee players explain how if your specs aren’t as good into casters as I say they are (and as the statistics show), why they’re still outperforming the vast majority of casters?

Dk or ww if you had to measure them on broken scale in season 2 df?