WW over DK from SP PoV since 99% of DKs played DK Aug and spellcleaves are good into that
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Who are you to decide that?
It is, you probably just never heard it before!
Lets be totally honest here. Beside its absurd to look only onto specs, not classes:
There are 6 destros/shadows and 5 boomkins over 3k. 9 ww in comparison played by 5 players if I saw it correctly. So your wizards arenāt as bad as you are trying to make them. And you clearly canāt say, that ww is a joke into
To think so just makes clear, that you are of those delusional wizards who thinks, wow still favors melees in PvP. What it favors are mages and spam stunning melees like rogues and ferals.
any melee pressure on the post? asking for a friend.
Because Iām the one wanting to play the composition and advertising the name of it.
Ah yes, those famous compositions āannoying as 
ā āno skill cleaveā and āstun for everyoneā. Sounds more like a slur you would attach after you lose in the opener to something, rather than an objective understanding of what a composition is.
It does, as supported by factual statistics.
I agree, RM and Mage Feral are stronger than WW, yet WW is still exceptional into virtually all casters. Itās an irrefutable statistical fact, just like this:
Which you conveniently keep ignoring. I wonder why.
For the record, Iām not saying WW is the best spec in the game, itās not, but it is fantastic into all casters except for Fire, Ele (bot tax) and Aug.
its an ostrich effect but the only thing that isnt moot is that retri,arms,ww,uhdk which all as melees in theme of this topic were powerhouses of the season and factually performed well in every bracket from shuffles to 3v3
i wonder if the op of the topic Thunderson is still with us or if he has had enough of his post 
his propably kicking dirt somewhere and swearing
It is not which you would know, when playing a ww on higher ratings - or all wizards. Your PoV is just terrible onesided!
Beside that shuffle and 3s are completely different and often favors different specs, from the top 10 highest rated players in shuffle 9 are wizards! So how was that with
?!
but you use higher ratings as knowing and from behind classic character that we have no way of knowing anything about the person making the claim so the argument becomes moot by that alone
there is simply no way of making any assumptions or taking anyones word for anything who are not visible for inspection, they can literally say anything and it doesnt hold value if they make the claim about their pov
fact here what dplover has presented tho is that ww has done well in the season in every bracket, that is undisputable
You are literally refuting factual statistics from 3k+ 3v3 where only 3 casters were more represented than WW Monks, and IāM the one thatās one sided?
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Arenamate 3v3. Freely available resource. Use it.
Wizard(s). A single specialisation makes up 10 of the top 50.
Heās clearly a low rated, bad WW Monk player. There isnāt a single Classic poster that is actually decent at the game, which is why theyāre literally untraceable.
WW Monk factually outperformed almost every single caster. Disputing this factual truth is alarmingly disturbing, what other facts do you dispute?
The guy with the hidden profile has spoken.
3 caster classes out of 6! And the others are just by a small margin behind.
I did, it showed me 9 wizards in the top 10 shuffle ladder.
what? you can just look anything i play, i have no reason to hide what i play, you self used argument as:
which i reply that we have absolute no way of knowing of the credibility of the claims from a poster using measures to hide his account he plays on, absolute no way of put any value on anything that is said related their pov like i explained previously
the undisputable fact still remains tho that ww has done well for the season in every bracket just like dplover here has presented with also statistics to back his claim
https://i.imgur.com/nD6H2eV.jpeg
how is that relevant? i havent made any claims related forum profile povs
you made claim from āknowingā from some pov inside the game and yet it is not inspectable if your claim is true or false as you take measures to hide your account you play on
what does forum profile have to do with intentionally hiding the characters you play on, fact is you cant make claim to dplover related knowing something better from your pov cause something x when youre not visible for inspection if your word is true or false
It is relevant in terms to not get into anything you shouldnāt. But based on
it is clearly allowed for a guy that only plays shadow, to claim how all other caster feel into ww I guess, just because he isnāt typing with a classic alt? 
Just looked into it. If my counting is correct, there are more caster than melees above 3k in 3s. And I havenāt even counted ranges in general, so it is without mm/bm. I also counted ret as melee, even though they do 90% non physical damage from 20+ yards range.
everything i play is inspectable from various sites through this name i use for the forum, also i have not made claims of knowing from any povs here so im not the one who needs to prove or provide any proofs
you made claim to dplover of knowing from some pov which you dont provide proof from as you hide the details of what you play with this classic account that prevents inspection of your retail characers so you need to provide the proof not me, and before you do we cant put any value on anything you claim to know from your pov
Where is his proof of knowing how other caster feel into ww? Or ww into other caster?
A coin always have two sides! When he would be a ww on high rating saying ww on every caster that would be something completely different. But you wonāt find such a person.
i only want to ask dplover if his name is reference to double pressure from melee comps on his sp, is the only thing im anymore interested in this melee related topic
Nice try, but we are talking about specialisations, not classes. WW was more represented than the following caster specialisations:
- Frost Mage
- Affliction Lock
- Destruction Lock
- Demonology Lock
- Shadow Priest
- Arcane Mage
- Balance Druid
- Devastation Evoker
Shall we call the Death Knight class bad because Frost sucks? 
Casters above 3k in 3s:
Ele Shaman - 16
Aug - 16
Fire - 13
Destro - 7
SP - 6
Arcane - 6
Balance - 5
Frost Mage - 1
Dev - 1
Total = 71
Melees above 3k in 3s:
Feral = 15
UH = 12
Arms = 11
Sub = 11
WW = 9
Outlaw = 8
Ret = 7
Havoc = 3
Total = 76.
So no, your counting is not correct.
But what if you want to include 3100+ as well?!?!
Sure thing, thatās a +7 for UH, brining them to 19.
+6 more for Arms, bringing them to 17.
+6 more for Outlaw, brining them to 14.
+2 more for Ret, bringing them to 9
+2 more for WW, brining them to 11. Increasing the total melees at 3k - 3100+ from 76 to 99.
For casters:
6 more for Aug
5 more for Arcane
3 more for Ele
2 more for Balance
1 more for Fire
Increasing the total casters at 3k - 3100 + from 71 to 88.
Ranged =/= caster. So congratulations, unironically you were finally accurate for the first time today. Good job.
Because Iāve played as Shadow, Balance and Warlock (probably at a higher level than you), played WITH casters such as Balance, Warlocks, Ele Shamans (legit ones, not bots), so thatās how I know. Oh, and I can also open freely available data resources and interpret data.
Iāve literally said it doesnāt on every caster.
Yeah, 6 of them being Augmentation Evokers, 1 being a Fire Mage and 1 being a Boomkin. Oh wow, a WW as well, along with specs that WW is incredible with. What a weird coincidence. Followed by another 9 WWās in the top 50.
I donāt only play Shadow though. Iāve played Boomkin and Warlock, probably higher than you have played your main class.
Itās my love for being railed by Arms Warriors and WW Monks that hit me for 150k+ through a 10% - 30% damage reduction as well as Devouring Plague
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i figured something as much, so it stands for double pressure love, thank you. i will use it too now onwards that i know the meaning
More like double penā¦