Melee pressure getting nerfed or not?

if there is thousands of people above you in rating in your spec, then its a you problem. always is. melee do pressure when they connect, play with classes that punish them for tunneling.

zero point blaming class balance until you get to at least 2500+

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It is always the same excuse with you, oh i did not play enough games this season so I didn’t get this rating but lmao look how many games you played. I hit just under 3k in 3s this season, what did you achieve? Oh yeah that is right nothing.

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Spoiler alert if you actually played the game at real rating you know what the actual meta is.

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arms seem to have it quite good in every bracket like we could suspect so nothing new there, i dont see the hardships of warrior anywhere

Then roll a warrior and show us how good you are. You are all trash blaming other classes for your low rating. No need to say more.

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i dont want to play a warrior, but i dont know how its related to most aspects in the game being free for say arms atm especially if we compare some of these achievements of the game to how a healer could achieve such compared to a retri or arms player going do few shuffles on this and previous seasons, i continue miss the hardships of warriors still here on this equation

but seriously if you think arms has anything hard this season or warrior in general being bad its very delusional, Dplover aka lockfromwish already covered the statistics so i dont need to go link them but i believe deep down you all know it self aswell that your doing exceptionally well

idd say arms players dont know much about hardship but they do seem to make it sound like it playing one, they make it sound almost like victim most of times when infact most of things are handed them on silver plate as free

giga true + with how fast and easy it is to reroll, there is really no excuse. you guys had no problems busting out the rets in 10.0.7 or the augs or mm hunters or eles or demo/destro locks, but mysteriously with arms its too much effort. ah my hand, my mortal strike finger hurts today, i can’t play arms even tho its omega poggers op guys trust me. i’ll just whine for 12 months straight about arms :^)

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Not sure if this is also pointed towards me so just answering on it since you said “You are all trash”, but I never rly blamed arms warriors for my rating. I just dislike playing against them.

Id rather blame my lack of time commitment and mistakes. :+1:

Fun fact Retri in rank 1 range is only viable with MM and Holy. Arms/Ret is only viable with Fistweaver but they hit the wall at 2800 (according to my friend). He is 2800+ H Priest in 3s. Last time I saw him trying the comp he tanked 200 cr. Don’t get me wrong Ret is a menace in RSS in both regions but in proper 3s it’s not that good. Arms has one S tier comp which is R Druid Thunder.

I’m not the best player myself obviously but I don’t blame the whole world my rating. I met really good people at the end of season and I plan to play with them in a new one so we will see. And I can clearly say meeles are not OP and unbeatable by any means. There is a reason why not a single team played meelecleave at Blizzcon and not a single team won regionals on meeles. They have lower skill floor that’s true but to be rank 1 on Arms it takes the same amount of skill as any other caster. What do you expect though if someone switches main every season. Good example is I met few warriors and as I mentioned in the topic we do solo shuffle wargames. One I played with is 2400 this season and he is very good but we played some wargames I mentioned in the other topic and one time 2800 warrior joined us and he was the league above. Just pressing your rotation well is basics positioning well is second part that makes you maintain it. 2400 one was maintaining 40-50 k dps and 2800 one 70 k. The target on higher ratings is decided more on positioning and not defensives actually. That’s what I learned playing rounds with that 2800 Warrior. Seeing him communicate was truely eye opening. What he and Priest friend told me is play and watch your replays. You would be surprised how many mistakes you actually make. When you play it’s hard to notice sometimes but with your cold head after you can be more objective. Don’t focus on rating focus on mistakes and improvememt and rating will eventually come. I can beat even rank 1 players from time to time in the ladder but the main difference between me and them is that they are way more consistent and that’s the main difference. They capitalize on even small mistakes.

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Hehe , i read the forums every night for a good laugh , but this is true .

I cant say anything about what is hard or not because im def not an arena enjoyer and im playing to collect mogs, mostly i was a ganker , 1v1 and outdoor enjoyer since vanila.

Since ive got a bajilion of alts to get pvp mogs though… I will dare to say this and ik im gonna be crusified… Arms war is hard to play in 3s and in shuffle is giga aids into casters that know basic funtamentals to kite.
Yes ive reached something to 1900 cr and 2k mmr on shuffle , but trust me ive played so much with so many classes … (Main is hpal/mage since i had hair , 33 on november 20th btw, yep a boomer) and war is not that easy as most people portrait it is.

Fastest ratings ive got was with uhdk, ret for melees… With war… Man i almost ate my keyboard…
Feel free to checkpvp me, youll see i aint bsing…

War takes hands , even with the x2 bladestorms, ye i said it…
And i feel for some guys that get facerolled as the lock guy said above , ik ima get bullied again for saying, but it is indeed a skill issue.
Atleast for duelist ratings.

Now imagine at 3k vs a good ele/mage, ele/aug fire/aug, shadowplay and you are the war… We should agree for once brothers , whoever hates and never tried war , i bet you my kidneys, you would die at opener.
Just my honest op.

Peace!! :sparkling_heart::sparkling_heart::sparkling_heart:

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You’re also right. Warrior is very good now nobody can deny that but it’s not that anyone can pick it up and get rank 1 on it just because he is a warrior like some people (not you claim here). Warrior still has quite high skill ceilling and obviously you know that there is huge difference between Warriors you face and these I face for example. No class is blocking anyone from reaching 2400 this season. It’s themselves like in my case I did stupid thing of trying to get all 13 elite sets. It made me distracted from my spec and actually made me worse on it.

If I was dedicated and focused on self improving I’d be way higher but it’s only my fault - not Warrior’s, Ret’s or Fistweaver’s. Some people on the forums who are sitting 1800 are literally blaming x class that they are stuck. There is literally no spec you cannot get 2400 on. The wall and frustration starts way higher so excuses from some people here are laughable. Congrats on glad and legend btw.

P.S.:

Out of all classes I tried this season Warrior was the most frustrating to play so I actually respect anyone who mains it as getting kited 24/7 makes you really annoyed. I wouldn’t not be able to main Warrior for sure.

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you have no rating, you played 35 games entire season to get 1 sp 1.6 in shuffles and quit there 4 months ago. last season it was retocalypse where you took retri for your first duelist also in shuffle and which invigorated you later defending the state of retocalpyse on forums

also no one here is blaming their ratings on arms, but reading comprehension seemed to got lost in translation somewhere for the warrior replyers and the other enthusiastic fans, lets say it like that instead insult anyones intelligence like it is common for you to do when your calling me with gamer words example

see the matter being discussed were if warriors really have any reason to complain or play it like their season was somehow extremely hard which it simply werent

You talk a lot about ratings and you argue a lot but a fact is you quit your Warlock once it’s def was nerfed. Once you cannot stand and facetank everything doing PvE you quit it being stuck at 1800. While you were spamming the crap out of forums being frustrated me and few guys we were already running around with enchants already. Now you’re 2200 on R Sham and you got cocky. Literally my firend Drathzul-Burning Legion who was playing his first PvP season achieved as much on lock as you. Do you know why because he approached that 2800 Priest and asked him for tips instead of blaming the whole world spitting acid around. Also if you want to look for someone who didn’t give up on lock and makes it work you don’t need to look far. Bloodlock is playing it on 2400 mmr in 2s and 3s doing fine

Your main issue is your mentality. I met Aryash recently in 2s we had a nice chat after the game and wished each other good luck. You can only spread toxicity and offend people. Firstly you were attention seeking adding everyone to delete them for no reason - now you’re offending anyone who doesn’t agree. Get some help…

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after your usual displays of 100 reply long spams and trying pick arguments of nonsense on a unrelated matters for post i have zero interest to read any of this or nothing in future, ill just report it as derail and spam

most dumbest derailing so far i witnessed where the one new players post related sp where confirmation related his choise is asked and one blueman powered by some snorted substances decides this is the room he will spam 100 reply long spam argumenting of lost cause with someone trying claim arms/retri doesnt play easyer than caster, i should just put ignore there but you can be sure i put here, its not even funny its just too much

The irony is it’s you saying that to someone else.

Maybe it’s you being bipolar talking to yourself then it’s extremely accurate.

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Ive told that person I got him on perm ignore, keeps trying to grab for attention everywhere I write. Its funny :+1:

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If you read the other topic you can see the story of my interaction with him. It was mental. I got deleted out of the blue after talking to him a lot everyday. I didn’t respond for a day or two because I went for a party to my friends for the weekend. I’m not going to reply 24/7 sitting on discord in the middle of the party. If it was only me then fine it might be my fault but it happened to the 4 people from my friend list.

Guy has some serious problems. Not sure if he is not dangerous to be honest.

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yes youve told it multiple times and yet you proceed talking or refering to me on posts i find most funny, but the perm challenger defendor of retocalypse takes the trophy really

but do you not see the irony on when you make some comments like related your gameplays when you factually have 35 rounds as total for the whole season and nothing else, like seriously your ego must be really big if you think you matter with this :slight_smile:

i wonder what makes you think you are this big, i just find it very weird when one speaks like this when he doesnt even play the game :smiley:

Oh you’re having another tantrum

Yea I did. Wasnt surprised lol.
Its the same as when I said “sub is strong” and he kept spamming me about representation, that its not his fault but everyone elses, and when that dont help the only excuse he has left is a simple “You dont even play the game!” :joy:

But I used to have a friend like that aswell, blamed me for not answering him every single time within 5minutes and ended up with just trashing me all the time for it lol. Like someone who needs to have your full attention every 5 min otherwise you are a bad friend… :+1:
I learned to not have those people as a friend or just start ignoring them. But even after telling him 3-5times I got him on perm ignore he keeps trying to seek my attention xD

But im off to bed so I can wake up for the new patch. Goodluck and Have Fun!

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