I had no real friends in wow…
just acquaintances…
guess i am lucky in that way… they are all gone but i do not have to miss them.
people come and go as a solo casual…
Some real life, some in game. I still have them on FB as friends and most of them moved on, some got married, some got kids… as well as my real life friends whom I used to play the game with and also they moved on.
I do miss the times when we used to go out for a beer all 4 together and talk about WoW, the raids, the dungeons and stuff 
But that’s life! What can you do about it? 
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This all sounds like a nice dose of nostalgia but
this is not just about the game, the society is ever-changing and if anything the change has been speeding up almost overwhelmingly in the last decade. People just don’t engage with each other the same way.
An mmo as a multiplayer gaming world will always reflect what is happening around us, you can’t conserve it in its past state, you’d have to lock the players up somewhere with nothing but the game.
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True. Game didn’t used to be better but people used to be better.
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get to close to people in these games … it’s harder to walk away when u want to 
just look at my friend… he met his now GF in ff14 online… now he has over 20k hours played in that game… i had 3k hours in the same period of time spent playing…
they use it as a place to meet as long distance n such lol…
hes tied to that game cannot escape.
Funny, there’s vanilla and wrath servers now!
A ‘friendship’ involves more than one person, maybe you’re part to blame.
Do we just pretend all that happened didn’t.
Yes, those people who save the world, the less important people.
Oh, dear.
Yes, those people who save the world, the less important people.
Its not fun being the all powerful the chosen one in every expansion, and especially sealed the deal in SL.
Leave it to Thrall and Anduin.
Honestly one of easiest things you can do to make wow feel more like the old days is just talk to people, if you’re hanging out outside org or stormwind dueling and you think of something funny just write it in chat, people usually want to respond and talk, you just have to take the initiative sometimes.
The group finders have made not being social easy, but that doesn’t make it impossible to go out of your way and try to be social with other people, who probably feel the exact same way all the other players do. People who are drawn to video games aren’t known for being the most extraverted people on earth.
Be the change you want to see.
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Creating social bonds with people typically requires multiple interactions. With the infinite shards and everyone being in one massive pool, playing with the same players again and again is almost impossible unless you join a guild.
With the small servers in Classic - WTLK multiple social interactions with people was basically guaranteed. Now, it is incredibly rare unless you play on an RP server.
Blizzard have also made guilds borderline redundant, unless you do Mythic raiding. Mythic raiding though, has a close to non-existent participation. Guilds should be a massive focus point for evergreen content, but I am pretty sure nothing new has been added to guilds since MoP?
WoWs population has also become more dull. The truth is that many of us are absolute weirdos, not just for posting on these forums, but for sticking with the game for this long. Vanilla had a massive population of ´´normal´´ people, with rich social lives. In fact being a ´´no-life´´ in vanilla was incredibly rare and those who would ´´no-life´´ the game were made fun of a lot. People made a mocking ´´Kungen fanclub´´ guild on Magtheridon to make fun of the world first raiding guild Nihilum. Most people just did not have the time to play too much WoW unless you were a Uni student. Raid night on a friday? Oops, can´t have a party to go to, gotta make an excuse.
WoW is now mostly full of broken people needing an escape from something like chronic illness (mental or physical). These are not the people who have the energy to pursue social interaction.
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People like to make those grand claims about how this is a syndrom of how our society is evolving, how the new generations are dumber and more self centered by citing things like tiktok while forgetting their parents used to mock them for using facebook.
The reality is much simpler, the game has been out for 18 years. In that time we have slayed countless world ending threats, starting with the very first raid of vanilla. Narratively it wouldn’t make sense to be a simple no name adventurer after having defeated the likes of the Lich King or Kil’Jaeden. The only way we could still be DND level 1 characters would be for the game to not have allowed us to progresse in all that time, and I personnaly don’t want to kill kobold in Elwynn for two decades.
Now I understand the feeling, as a DND player and DM I can tell from experience that the most fun to be have in the game is from level 3 to 10 basically. After this the player characters power level gets too out of control to make a good narrative with proper threats without constently trying to one them up with larger and larger threats.
But the problem is that rpgs by their very nature are all about player progression, you want to gain levels, you want to gain magic items, you want to gain power and wealth. So you are constantly progressing toward that point of being too powerful for the sake of the game.
Another issue is that people get attached to that characters, imagine having played a toon since vanilla. The char would represent a wealth a memory for the player, it would be a central part of their life. As such, they would want to keep playing them, keep progressing. Even though I haven’t played in vanilla and I have only mained this char for this season I can understand the feeling because of a sense of attachement from what I accomplished on it, mainly getting KSM by my own means for the first time.
In DND you can always restart a new campaign, but people wont want to throw away their toons and go back to square one and it’s understandable. At best they might accept to depower them, but judging how things like loosing the artefact weapons have been received in the past I doubt it.
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Okay boomer
Hard agree on this ! was drier with milk powder, less waxy and sweet imo. Miss how it was, so yes, I have chocolate nostalgia. 
I personally think Wow needs some massive thinking and changes, starting with the new player and levelling experience.
I don’t think the overhaul they did was good enough, especially after my experiences recently with another mmo.
There needs to be a decent variety of interesting stuff accessible while levelling and at end game, but not to the extent that new/current players feel obliged to rush and skip massive amounts of content and character development to get there.
The focus of the game needs to be around fun and exploration of the world, your character, solo/group activities and npc stories/history in my view.
I think the community mindset needs to change to create a welcoming atmosphere, where people are more motivated to reach out to others.
Fun content where it is nice to win, but not the end of the world if you don’t and players feel rewarded for trying.
Challenging content will always be important for those that enjoy it, but there should be instructive, learning steps to reach it and less ‘feeling’ of punishment when missing the mark. Just try again, more practice and no fomo rush or stress rubbish.
This is pretty much why me and some friends who’ve been playing on and off since wrath just made our own guild.
Our humour is certainly dark at times but we make sure people are crystal clear on that before a disc invite. Best move we’ve made in years and M+ on Friday/Saturday nights is a damn good laugh even if it’s just boosting a new join through tens!
Yes! You’ll have all the bots and transfers to entirely break the economy, plus the Classic™ server dynamic based on the clusterf…™ technology. WotLK will be the best thing ever (again), and it will recreate all your fond memories™.
All those bors let’s me buy 2000 Dreaming glory for cheap every day.
So i don’t mind
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