Missing the old days of wow

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Missing the old days of wow, and i am far from the only one.

wow just doesint feel the same, the charm, and the humor isint there.

Back to vanilla and to wotlk, your character felt like an adenturer in a big world, doing small quest errands for peasants and defeating bosses in a team with friends. Whilst under the command of the leader of your faction.

Now you are above Thrall, Jaina and all heroes of azeroth you are the champion of azeroth, the maw walker and so on. The chosen on.

In my opinion, from playing wow for many years, people have gotten more self centered and less social, I havent made any ingame friends for years, but made plenty back in the days. Sure some of it has to do with how you couldint use dungeon/raid finder and had to talk to other players to get into a group, but there is something lacking beyond that.

If there ever is going to be a WoW 2 i wish that they will keep it simple, and make the player character into an adventurer as he is and not make the character into a big important person, thats going to save azeroth over and over.

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Gogo, WOTLK classic around the corner, go play it now

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I personally do not like socialising with the people which play modern wow…

their general sense of humour and constant meme spam … is enough to question my reason to live at times…

call me a old fart… but people USED to be genuinely funny themselves… they didn’t copy all their top 100 jokes off some facebook feed.

-.-

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Thats the natural course if you slay elemental lords, dragons, gods, demons, titans and the like etc.

We were already above Thrall and Jaina and the lot during Vanilla however. That was effectively sealed the moment we beat Ragnaros and resealed C’Thun. By the time of wotlk the ship ultimately sailed with Yogg and Arthas.

And we werent exactly under the command of the leader of your faction. Was more of a equally beneficial transaction really.

Nah its pretty effectively that. Realm Communities became obsolete and were killed off as a result of it. It started in 3.3 and then slowly withered away. Right now the people you meet you will only meet once and thats it.

While back in the days the odds were high you were meeting the same person regularly. Or one of their alts. I remember having a break in wotlk and when i returned and joined an Archa run quite a bunch of people in the pug raid went “oi! Welcome back!” to me because most of the realms most active players knew one another. This would have never occurred past cataclysm.

At best currently you get this kind of people if youre a regular in the trade chat or the raids general chat during guild raid time.

That means the game wouldnt get any expansions. Killing Defias members is only entertaining that much as well.

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I think the issue is with how inconsistent that feels through the story and the game.
Character’s we’ve quested with for years can forget about us in a new patch, I’m fine with being a super powerful main character so long as it’s consistent and the characters acknowledge my previous deeds.

In 9.2.5, Genn saying “…You have much to answer for as well…” to my horde character gave me genuine goose bumps, only 2 content patches after Jaina forgot I’d rescued her from Torghast.

Also why would characters I’ve known for years call me “maw walker”? surely they’d call me their friend, or by my common title of “Deathlord”/“Champion”?

It was the shift in focus to personal progression rather than group progression, except the major issue with that was the raid content didn’t change with that, raids are still designed with pre-made consistent groups in mind, which alienates the majority of players from partaking because people are so busy with work these days and pugging is notorious for it’s overly vocal toxic players (it isn’t everyone, but it looks that way from the outside-in)

Wow’s gameplay since legion has also been built around M+, which is primarily an E-sport, something people do because they’re competitive rather than because it’s fun or entertaining, add in the fact that raids have been designed and tuned purely for RWF guilds, the result is the game has alienated most of us and brought out the selfish/toxicity of a lot of people who still play (not everyone, I’ve met some lovely people in M+, this is a generalization).

If you feel Wow has alienated you, and you don’t wish to go back to classic because you’ve already experienced that game, I would recommend trying other MMO’s, there are some games that still capture that sense of community.

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Genn doesnt care about your status within the Horde or in general. He only cares that you’re horde. And well, the Horde character went along with laying siege to the Nelfs instead of turning against Sylvanas or in the very least away from the whole procedure. Genn threatening you goes hand in hand with the character. Whether his threat is of any value is another topic.

Shadowlands thingy. The people in the shadowlands mainly know you as maw walker. May as well call you that for the time being. And it makes sense at least for the Rogues by not calling us Shadowblades. The Shadowblades arent exactly well known for being friendly with any of the factions unless the goals align and also have no problem whatsoever to assassinate any of the faction leaders.

Also makes sense for Bolvar not to call you death lord. While you were “technically” his servant during legion you were still the leader of the DKs. A role he has occupied for Shadowlands. And now without his LK powers he is way below you in terms of power (even if he already was prior to that).

Champion would be the most accurate description ye. But again its the Shadowlands. Plus some of us are sick and tired of hearing “CHAMPION! De Wunz!”.

I was more annoyed with beings such as the winter queen who went all beep against us despite knowing what we did and as such she being very very low on the foodchain in regards of what we can slaughter. Same goes for KT in sanctum. Sure he was peed like no other in the shadowlands because of what we did to him twice prior but he should in the very least keep in mind that hes not exactly high on the potential threat meter.

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But Genn is a hypocrite, because he did way worse than things than my character. Still my character wants to help him while he is a douchebag all of the time.

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It’s only mythic+ now, it’s all blizz likes to focus on.

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To be honest i don’t miss them.
I don’t miss the endless farm to silithus to get a simple mount.
I don’t miss regents / mounts in our bags.
I don’t miss the 40 man party.
I don’t miss not to have transmog.
And other stuff

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If only you have classic and wolk classic to Play

Oh wait you do .

Dont let Door hit you on way out :slight_smile:

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I am aware classic exist, but it’s still not the same thing as it used to be.

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Issue isnt in game…
Its world wide IRL.
Humans have changed behaviour - and continues to do so.
The trend now is selfie-era, money spending/power and generally shallow behaviour.

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Main problem to me is that in story we are now supposed to be this WH40K like Emperor of man style unstoppable super soldier goku commander of the universe but it doesnt reflect in the gameplay at all or how we quest in the game.

Personally i really hate being this commander character in wow in GW2 i dont mind it because its actually fun to be a commander and actually feels like i am one but in wow npcs call me with insert current title here butni still do collect bear butt quests like i did 17 years ago.

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Do people who are below the age of 35 still use Facebook?

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Yes, I prefer my character to be a small player in a big world. But once I’m through the initial story quests of the XP (or I’ve done them once and don’t read them after that), I can ignore the ‘champion’ and ‘hero’ stuff. My characters all have back stories, and none of them are especially important.

As for this, however:

This isn’t a problem with missing ‘the old days of WoW’, but missing the old days of the internet. When the internet was shiny and new, people saw it as an exciting new way to meet people and build real social connections (as opposed to simply collecting followers or likes). That’s changed as we’ve come to take it for granted, and I don’t see us getting it back. It isn’t that people have changed, really. We just get excited about shiny, new things, and the shine wore off long ago.

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its not just people below 35 with the humour problem bud…

it’s hard to find people who havent been in someway influenced by social media of some kind in today world…

for me…

my brothers small discord channel… wow forums and i guess in the past youtube comments…

is as far as my social media experience goes

it’s why i can still for the most part formulate my own opinions which people dont like…

BECAUSE THEY ARENT POPULAR …

EDIT: even everyone at my work are all connected on social media… im the only person there which isnt lol.

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Missing the old days of chocolate, and i am far from the only one.

Chocolate just doesn’t taste the same, the sweetness, and the texture isint there.

Back to when I was ten and eleven, I could eat any given amount of chocolate in any given amount of time, milk chocolate, white chocolate, chocolate with nuts, chocolate with raisins, flaky chocolate, solid bars.

Now I have half a bar in the fridge, and I’m not even moving to get it.

I am aware chocolate exists, but it is not the same thing as it used to be.

:smiley:

I joke, but it’s true. Chocolate hasn’t changed; I have. Old WoW hasn’t changed; I have. And so have you.

When I started WoW, my focus was on how to get past those firbolg that kept killing me because they seemed to come out of nowhere. (Because I was still seeing through my character’s eyes, because I hadn’t realised I could move the camera back to get an overhead view,) That’s as far ahead as I thought.

Now my view of the game has even more detail and scope than my character has of her surroundings.

Now I have a much larger overview, a schema of what I intend to achieve in this patch, some reading sessions to understand how to achieve it most efficiently, and whether to add or eliminate goals depending on how much effort I’m willing to put in. If I find a small obstacle, I look up Wowhead or YouTube for answers.

It applies to other MMOs as well. I gave GW2 and FF14 a try, and right from the start I was looking up the most efficient classes, specs, weapons, routes, already knowing the shape of the game.

I can’t go back to being that innocent, unworldly Night Elf who just wanted to pass those firbolg safely. I wish I could.

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Cadbury’s chocolate most certainly has changed. Now it’s that awful sickly sweet crap the Americans call ‘candy’.

When the Kraft food group bought Cadbury’s they changed the recipe and tried to make traditional ‘English’ chocolate taste like the American version.

So your analogy actually works the opposite way to what you intended.

WoW lost a lot of it’s fun factor when Ion started talking about this ‘morally grey’ malarky. Trying to make WoW some sort of mirror of the real world was a huge mistake IMO, this is meant to be a fantasy game, not some sort of PC real life sim.

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Probably true about Cadbury’s but my point stands. There is no chocolate I have tasted in the last decade that comes close to what I remember. So my analogy stands.

And that was just an analogy anyway. I can make a more direct comparison by picking up another MMO and knowing what I’m thinking about.

Not arguing, but I think it started before, with the Cosmic malarkey. Multiple Universes in a series is usually the sign that this Universe is dead.

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I miss my old friends :frowning: I’m the only one remaining.

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