Mistweaver PVP (SL Season 1) disaster

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A month ago one monk from NA servers made a great post STATE OF MISTWEAVER PVP - SHADOWLANDS about issues of mistweaver in pvp. He collected arena statistics from pvpleaderboard.

I decided to compare numbers almost a month later, the previous number is inside brackets.

EU 3v3 # of Players Max Rating - EU 2v2 # of Players Max Rating
Discipline Priest 581 3132 Discipline Priest 494 2628
Holy Paladin 525 3011 Holy Paladin 673 2680
Restoration Shaman 184 2954 Restoration Shaman 305 2652
Restoration Druid 65 2741 Restoration Druid 161 2558
Protection Paladin 67 2793 Protection Paladin 143 2715
Holy Priest 22 2821 Holy Priest 44 2551
Mistweaver Monk 10 (57) 2663 Mistweaver Monk 11 (29) 2400
US 3v3 # of Players Max Rating - US 2v2 # of Players Max Rating
Discipline Priest 547 2966 Discipline Priest 468 2472
Holy Paladin 502 3169 Holy Paladin 589 2664
Restoration Shaman 183 3002 Restoration Shaman 295 2516
Restoration Druid 67 2893 Restoration Druid 125 2609
Protection Paladin 50 2785 Protection Paladin 115 2408
Holy Priest 45 2921 Holy Priest 66 2473
Mistweaver Monk 24 (65) 2864 Mistweaver Monk 24 (44) 2308
EU RBG # of Players Max Rating - US RGB # of Players Max Rating
Discipline Priest 495 3165 Discipline Priest 484 3008
Holy Paladin 306 3029 Holy Paladin 233 2730
Restoration Shaman 207 2827 Restoration Shaman 214 2752
Restoration Druid 116 2652 Restoration Druid 154 2969
Mistweaver Monk 106 2853 Mistweaver Monk 94 2810
Protection Paladin 44 2671 Protection Paladin 43 2693
Holy Priest 31 2937 Holy Priest 68 3026

We can argue about healers skill ceiling, but actual numbers tell the truth of MW state in PVP. Undisputably monk is the worst healer of SL Season 1 on Arena, and the worst healer class (not spec) for RBG (because priest can play disc and paladin can pick holy). We see absolutely zero blueposts about it, no quick fixes, no changes, nothing. Mistweaver future in PVP is unclear.

Big part of competitive content seems unavailable for class. So if you want to play as a healer in PVP and don’t want to suffer It’s better to consider reroll.

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Yes, I have to open dark web, just to find any Mistweaver arena streams. Situation is terrible and worst thing of all, the gameplay of Mistweaver is not enjoyable at the moment.

It is very sad that priests have two competitive healing specs and Monks have 0. I’m happy for other classes, especially shamans, because they needed the rework. But I regret trying to main monk this expansion atm.

I know balancing takes time, I only hope with a frequency of posts such as this one, our spec will get looked at and adjusted at 9.1.

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PvPing as a MW has shown me just how bad we are in PvP… we melt in 5 seconds and don’t do any damage. The current meta is very bursty and MW literally dies in a single stun while every other healer is more tanky by default.

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Moreover paladin has two healing specs, but honestly ret is able to do more healing output that MW on arena, because lasts longer.

I feel the same, started level holy pally, it really feels like true melee healer. But the problem is that I have been maining monk since MoP for 7 years, and I wanted to focus on PvP during SL. It was bad choice this season. I’m really angry that I should reroll or change my plans because somebody was too busy to pay some attention to MW in pvp.

I don’t think we will see any significant changes in future. Because any changes will affect raid or M+ performance of MW. Of course talented gamedesigner can do surgeon like changes and balance PvP without touching PvE balance. But come on, ‘talented’ is the last word which goes to your mind when you see 10 mistweavers in 2v2 ladder and 581 disc priests.

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Even though PvE wise it’s debatable, monks can perform just as good but you’d have to give 110% while some other classes could push same numbers with half a brain, PvP is really undisputed dogsht… I sincerely hope blizzard is going to push some changes cause we got nothing…Yu’lon and a new shttier Crane that replaces statue when chosen.

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Sad times. No acknowledgement from blizz as well. Pain. If they are not adding any changes because they don’t want to affect the balance of tournaments then its completely imbalanced to begin with since MW has no place in it whatsoever. Stats and overall gameplay show the spec of MW as an utter joke. We need major/decent buffs in these hotfixes. =

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Funny fact I managed to find only changes of anima powers for monk in recent hot fixes. It seems blizzard is concerned of Torghast balance of monks.

Edited:
I didn’t noticed that there are planned changes for BrM and WW for 12th of January. But still silence about MW.

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Yup, some major two handed balance is incoming.

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It’s so bad when prot palas are far above an enitre healer class (mw) in both regions in 2v2 and 3v3. They are just better healers than mw monks, and I guess thats the way blizz want it. They’re done with mw monk, they want to phase them out I guess.
Wait they buffed ww dmg by 2%? With everyone complaining about their op dmg they buff them???

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They buffed two-handed dmg for WW because two 1 handers are currently better because of enchants. It’s just to make it equal.

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Maybe they want to make monk as DH with 2 specs. Reputation of MW spec was destroyed, it’s well known as low tier healer, people are switching from MW. Maybe state of MW in PvE was not intended, and next change will bring spec to underground. It will wipe spec, and it can be successfully removed, and we all will get achievement in Feats of Strength category.

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This, 100 times this

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Have you seen the balance changes?
No one cares about 2 handed WW and brewmaster, they have it all wrong and don’t listen to the community, I can’t wait for the riot games mmo to come out now they’ve killed my class.

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Since blizzard is buffing underperforming specs i dont understand why they did not include MW monks.
I would not mind playing weaker spec, but whenever i am trying to play arenas it is impossible to find ppl to play with since nobody wants to play with MW monk.
I can only play with long time friends and even they are complaining that i should reroll.

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Same thing. I’ve switched to WW, but my friend is playing dps spec, and WW has issues with survivability in double dps comps, so it’s not a big success.

I wouldn’t expect changes this season. And we don’t know SL Season 1 lifetime. Better to reroll to other healing class, don’t waste your time.

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Whenever i play rogue & mage in 2’s, we allways CC Healer, unless its a Mistweaver. We can easily tear down their wall in our opener

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Actually, it’s a bug, MW should start arena in dead state. Blizzard doesn’t want to fix it. So there are a few mistweavers who abused this bug and managed to get above 2k in 2v2. This bug doesn’t affect arena matches significantly, but some MWs could throw a heal or CC, so better to fix it.

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