MM Hunter Damage

The current design of MM isn’t good, but that doesn’t make it broken.

Just because youre jumping like you had a happy meal at McDonalds with 400k hp cause you want to do big dam with your ignite hp reducing talent doesn’t mean it’s the games fault you die in 2 spells

Difference is casters won’t 2 shot you cause you can kick them and you can blink 5 times into melees :rofl:

You are saying its op because its good against you class (mage) MM sucks against other classes and get stunned to death. You have to look at whole picture to understand it. A spec cant be nerfed only because it beats mage😄
Deal with it.
And dont complain about MM when mage counter warrior.

Most of the time they cast it whilst in camo in the opener, it might break them out but isnt it like a 40 yard range

This is basically what I would guess aswell. Sniper shot would be amazing as an opener since you can use it while in camo and then just do the normal rotation instantly afterwards.
If you get hit by sniper shot when they just blatantly stand in the open visible then its kinda all on the person getting hit.

I actually don’t struggle against hunters on my mage. I’m not sure why you think that it is the only class I play lol

I usually play frost, too.

'course it is. It’s poor design. No spec should be able to two shot fully geared players. It doesn’t matter what spec is on the receiving end. It remains poor design. Subtlety rogues suffer from th same design flaw, as do, arguably, arcane mages. It’s gimmicky gameplay that shouldn’t exist. You can’t possibly justify this kind of design.

Hunter is like an abusive ex-boyfriend vs cloth at the lower ends of PvP, not just on Mages. Won’t leave you alone and are obsessed with you all game. Don’t think Sniper Shot is even used. As a mage you fear the MM hunter opener more than a Rogues when playing Shimmer instead of Blink stun, especially the type of Hunters that insist on waiting for your Invis to end all game lol

agreed - more on the point of them using it in camo :slight_smile:

MM has problematic design for sure - the whole damage is spread over very few abilities and these need to be very strong otherwise they don’t do anything.

So MM is either weak or OP (in terms of damage) and there’s no middle ground. They should update the spec.

Indeed, just like tanks and subtlety rogues.

Either completely useless or extremely OP.

And that is because of poor design.

MM is useless everywhere in rated pvp AND pve. Its only good in BGs or ganking people from 60yd wpvp. Pvp is usually fixed AROUND 3s. MM can never do its rotation properly in 3s because they get trained to death by double melees or tanky casters. Try to cast aimed? Forget about it. There is nowhere to hide, like in BGs behind team mates pumping aimed/rapid

It cant do rotation properly in 3s, and when blizz check dmg data all they see is MM does negative dmg. So they buff it. Thats why.

Blizz developers if you see this, here is the answer how to fix MM: Make aimed castable while moving. Reduce rapid fire cd from 18 sec to 10 sec. Reduce all dmg by 5%

Aimed shot while moving would be my dream come true :slight_smile:

We had it in one of the previous expansions… was it WoD? Aimed shot was usable while moving and Chimaera shot was a 9sec CD huge nature damage ability. Best MM iteration ever for me

Yes we had it in mop/wod. It was excellent and made our gameplay more fluid. And it makes sense to cast while moving since marksman is a professional caster both in-game and WoW lore. Chimera was better than rapid. And instant. As you are saying it was nature dmg, which did the same dmg to from cloth to plate.

Now we have rapid fire instead, which is a NERFED version of chimera. Not instant and on very long cd 18 sec. Chimera was 6 or 9 i cant remember.

Rapid does almost no dmg on plate while on cloth a lot. Thats why we had chimera to balance dmg output cloth-plate. Thats why we had chimera. Now there is a lot of crying priests/locks/mage making threads and giving false image that mm is op. It is not. Its 1 of the least played specs in 3s. Barely 1% representation 2.1k+ while all cloth classes have 10x more representation than that😄 Everyone should check drustvar

Gentlemen and ladies, the facts are out there go check for yourself.

Absolutely,

People complain from anecdotal evidence such as random BGs or arena skirmishes :smiley:

But go to check - pvp . fr or drustvar and it shows a different story haha

Regarding chimera - yes, it was better than rapid fire as it equalized damage across armor types much better. Now the variation is too big as most of the damage is physical and bleeds/nature only a very small part.

This literally doesn’t happen to anybody except Mages

But I guess it happens to a lot of people who require over 5 seconds to realize somebody is shooting at them (looking at the Rogues who press Evasion after Cheat death procs :rofl: )

MM hunter hits for literal 0 negative dmg on heavy armor classes, gets hard countered by most of the leather classes as well.

An MM can hit a Mage for 200k+ aimed shot. But if he decides to hit a Holy paladin instead he will likely crit for 100k at most.

MM gets countered by:

  • Small maps
  • Double melee games
  • Rogues
  • All Plate classes
  • Demo lock
  • Ele shaman
  • Pillars
  • Literally any class that has multiple ways of stopping Aimed shot casts / Rapid fires
  • Monk ranged disarm

And MM hunter hard counters:

  • Mage

Sounds like a broken class to me. Must be delicious being unable to stop a 3 second Sniper shot cast while sitting mid field like a target dummy :+1:

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Just hug pillars when theres a MM hunter in ur lobby. I mean, nothing annoys me more than people who fight and hug pillar as MM hunter.

Just a side note, I am fairly certain it scales from mastery and other damage modifiers. I’ve noticed that if I’m in the Cobalt Assembly and with enough mastery buff stacks, I can one-shot people with sniper shot.

Also in Ashran, the Ancient Artifact (200% damage increase or something) it can deal 80-90% hp.

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Oh I see, lets just buff them a little bit more guys. That class needs some love.

Mage is doing the same ?? Ayo??

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