Hi,
so i just lvled a 70 hunter to check what is going on with this class
222k noncrit sniper shott on a fully geared priest
im 445 pvp ilvl, and honor bow, and no weapon enchant etc, and 7% mastery
this class’s burst needs to be fixed ASAP (spread the damage out
Yaaa…sniper shot can not crit and no one takes that in arena, you are just dead meat then.
Sit on the MM and see them die with their 0 defensives and heals, one stun and dead
Dmg is all they got
Sniper shot can’t crit. It does % hp dmg. You will hit the same damage with it regardless if your character is naked or not. Same as Greater Pyroblast.
Hey
From my long experience of playing MM sniper shot is the worst talent MM has. Its almost 3 sec cast and EASY avoidable unless you stand in an open area with no pillars. And its the most countered ability in-game. No one is going to let you cast it in arena. I suggest you to try it, your point of view will immediately change.
The priest you did sniper can just line it or put a shield on himself (around 100k hp absorb) a long with dispersion. So simple. I often get amused when MM tries to sniper shot me. Feign, scatter, stun, sac, turtle, line it whatever. MM is truly a noobstomper spec.
You can not compare it with rated pvp. It has the one of the LOWEST representaion in 2s and especielly 3s at 1%!! Which means MM truly needs to be buffed dmg wise or defensive.
rookie numbers
I’ve taken sniper shot every single game so far and has worked out well for me.
You must use it in the right moments though
I created a fire mage - just dinged green gear… used greater pyro and ring of fire and it took 60% health from a full geared player… because that’s how %-based abilities work 
MM hunter desperately needs a rework, if the spec doesn’t do crazy high burst its basically useless.
well lets rather say MM is a real BG spec.
While in a 1on1 or when you see it coming it is very easy to counter and also easily killed.
In bgs MM hunter is very strong as you can camo and nobody knows where you are and you just snipe away. Also in big battles MM often goes unnoticed for a while when popping out of stealth.
In Bgs it is really quite easy to get sniper shot of and demolish people from 50y away
Regardless it doesn’t kill people in 3 seconds so if you have a heal in your back you won’t die anyways
I guess that was there initial idea with rapid fire to have sustained dmg rather than a big boom shot. Well they also failed at that obviously.
Guess mm would need to be more focused on bleeds and get more tanky to achieve something without crazy burst
Its a 3 sec cast if anyone lets you stand there to cast it, then they are brain injured
You can line it easily and if there is a mm in the lobby just play near a pillar and see the mm get frustrated
Sniper shot is a pretty good talent to pick though, especially if you know when to use it
Sniper shot is super easy to use. Sniper from Camo. Stun into Sniper. Trap into Sniper. Binding / Scatter into Sniper.
To make it even more disgusting you take the PvP trap talent so targets in trap can’t be healed. Catch someone at 50% HP in a trap and line sniper to land when trap ends and there is no counter play you just die. You just gotta know how to use it.
And then you find out that a aimed from stealth with a Arcane to follow, does the same dmg or way more if they crit or as long as they are above 70% hp
You can then follow up with chakarams and explosive + rapid fire
Its a talent that only works from camo or bgs and if they got half a brain,they will see you use sniper shot and just pound you into the ground
The extra range you do not need in arena and people will just move behind a pillar
And then you find out that that you have 5% to crit cause your full mastery and getting a crit in the opener will happen 1 in 20 games and Sniper hit for 250k always in every game even into plates which Aimed does not.
And then you find out Sniper is 1 GCD and not 2 and allows you to get your combo out 1+sec faster which is a lot.
And then you find out that after sniper “You can then follow up with chakarams and explosive + rapid fire” meaning you would do exactly the same thing and you end up with 100k more DMG in the opener 
I’m only 1700 rating on my MM, but even in 2100 on my boomkin I still see MM running with sniper and if they play well it’s really not that easy to just stop a sniper. You’ll stop it once, maybe twice, and later you’ll die cause that 100k extra dmg from sniper was just enough to kill you.
Also sniper is an amazing cheese, I know I’m 1700 rating, but when playing vs priest I sometimes in advance cast sniper on the hpriest and get a random kill cause he health swapped exactly at the same time my sniper landed. Sniper is just so much fun to play
Have you heard of our Lord and Savior, the Pillar? I preach his power every day.
If you can’t reach a pillar to line of sight something with a 3 second cast time, you’re sitting mid field tanking everything like a target dummy and probably deserve to get killed 
Have you seen any game at all? Do people in your games sit at the pillar 24/7? What rating is that? I hit 2200 and most games are played still in the open, on the bridge. Not all maps are 4 big pillars. Melees need to actually go into the open sometimes to deal DMG. Everyone needs to go into the open eventually even healers
No I haven’t seen any game I only have about 4000 shuffle rounds played this season across 10 characters between 1.7 and 2.5 rating
Yes I also don’t have a girlfriend obv
Are you suggesting most of your games happen on Blade’s edge? That’s pretty unlucky map rng man
You don’t need a big pillar to avoid a Sniper shot, you can use even the thinnest pillar for that
Sorry never played melee 
but yeah about 40% of the reason melees die in Shuffle games is because they don’t know when to run and hide, permanent W key is fun and all but at some point there’s no more defensives and healer eats a CC 
There’s a big difference between going into the open eventually and sitting open field the entire game against ranged classes. Take high rated warriors in 2v2 for example. If they’re facing a ranged class, and have no stuns or charges available, they won’t RP walk 50 yards to reach the guy while eating all the dmg, they’ll hug a pillar till they have their gap closers back and can literally just afk till things like Trueshot, Icy Veins, Demonic Tyrant etc are over
Have fun, do or die zug zug W key, or play smart and lame and win? It’s a choice
Not every spec needs to be S-tier.
Some specs are so poorly designed, so easy to play, or so difficult to balance that they shouldn’t be good. Tanks come to mind, but also demonology and MM. These specs shouldn’t exist in a competitive environment, as they create a broken and unfun gameplay for everybody else. Not until they have been given a complete rework.
MM is the furthest thing from broken.
It’s just a Mage counter. Which is the reason you are writing this. Meanwhile 8 different Melee specs cringe at trying to catch a Mage with 5 blinks
Making a poorly designed spec “work” by giving it the ability to two shot people just isn’t the way to go about it.