MM hunter is ruined

I agree that aimed shot in PvP can be seen as OP, watched plenty of vids on YouTube of the 1 shot.

But to literally delete this from a PvE perspective seems silly.

It’s like 1 extra aimed shot every 60 seconds blizz? On demand to line up with our burst cool downs instead of a random proc from l&l

It really isn’t that overpowered to justify removing completely. I mean hell the tier set bonus and legendary setup in SL was just spamming aimed shots lol?

Iv played hunter for the last few expansions cuz I just love the style with traps etc, but from the few minutes iv played of it in DF doesn’t feel fun to be honest.

The Salvo talent is more annoying to me than Double tap to be honest. It’s basically just extracted from the covenant death chakram. But at least with that you could time the explosive shot burst properly, Salvo just uses it on CD every 45 seconds when u cast a multi shot which is often! So we have no control to hold it.

Taking out DT and Salvo aspect from burst windows just feels meh.

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so true! when I was leveling, some bg had like 7 hunters! everybody would play hunter.
But when I was SP doing arena, I remember the time when me and lock had a team, we joined the arena and we were dead. We both Just died in 1 sec. 2 hunters did that. I was shocked that blizzard created this monster. Which of course I join. If you cannot beat them, join them!
But aside arena, I enjoyed playing this class guilty free at BG, I felt that I am contributing to my team winning.
Other than that, my favorites are classes like lock, spriest, mage, to have some sophistication instead of double tap clicking and doing 240K damage. Seriously, my rapid fire after double tap and my talent tree, at pvp mode had 240K damage on the icon. Its disgusting!

double tap was in a trash class of abilities buffing next cast, like PotM etc. that never should have been added to the game. especially on a class that doesnt really lack buttons.

The real issues is they ruined MM tree forcing to take one of 2 equally bad options - steady focus that feels bad to use and deadeye that is plain bad. hopefully they will add something better and remove steady focus from game or shove in some far and dark corner where i can forget it exists. And that they made salvo active effectively replacing one trash button with another, though it being off gcd allows to macro it and use like before.

some number buffing might be needed as well.

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Who does not like getting a perfectly aimed Ballista shot through their cerebrum thanks to a Feign Death abuser?

I don’t give a damn about PvP, but I miss double tap as solo player. Especially against stronger elites, it was a great opener.

Said the broken druid… Pathetic…

Yes, of course, I bet it’s fun being immortal now while I am hitting you with all my CDs. And what do you need to do gain this immortality? Just self heal without any CDs whatsoever.

So now without Double Tap I cannot possibly kill you unless for some unexplainable reason you forget to heal yourself.

And on top of that you are not satisfied with just removing double tap, you want to also remove one of the most lame defensive CDs in the game. Feign Death.

You are not just a clown. You are the whole circus!

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Yup. Defensives are terrible too. I basically said all this would happen as soon as removing double tap became known.

The damage is okay in PvP as long as youre not getting trained, but youre a hunter, so you’re going to get trained.

Shame because marksman with a pet is the class fantasy for me. BM is boring and survival doesn’t feel like a hunter playstyle to me.

Ill continue to represent MM, but it needs something else. Tactical Reload isnt even taken because its so utterly garbage. Needs to be at least 25%, or replaced with something that is off GCD, can be used whilst casting and makes your next 2 aimed shots castable whilst moving, maybe even reducing aimed shot focus cost by 50% as well. Basically like an ‘Ice Flows’ on frost mage, but for MM hunter.

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After 15 years as a Hunter I Re-rolled to DH, damn am I just wasting everything quicker than a MM Hunter RN, I’m just fed up of MM Hunter being ruined most updates.

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The best part is that competent people didn’t even use double tap with aimed shot. It was double tap into rapid fire that deleted opponents. So it kind of shows how much attention people actually pay to what kills them in pvp.

I don’t really PvP anymore but I used DT to Rapid Fire alot during PvE as the burst damage from it was great… now it’s lame.

You can call me a circus as much as you want, its not gonna bring back your precious little Double Tap.

oh how little you know about blizzard, wouldn’t surprise me if something stronger comes along :slight_smile: enjoy the short break while you can

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its not my main but a alt, sorry.

Some of the top MM hunters claim it’s no big deal. Jellybeans would even play arena matches without DT before it was removed to show it was never really needed.
DT was a crutch for low skilled hunters. I’m not saying they didn’t deserve something to compensate for its loss, but it was a really stupid ability and I’m glad it’s gone.

Oh really? Then I ask you this… What does MM hunter now have?

Damage? Survivability? Utility?

Because every other class in the game is infinitely better than MM hunter in an arena. Especially druids, warriors and rogues…

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I’m not saying other classes aren’t cracked. Warriors and 'sin rogues are the bane of my existence.
All I said was getting at is it’s not ruined as some so dramatically phrase it.

Sure mate, but I need at least a niche to even formulate a battle plan. Something to excel at. And with not a single strong characteristic or even a niche I simply cannot compete with other classes like:

  • Druids who can do everything and anything during a fight.
  • Or a rogue who is unbeatable in a 1 vs 1 scenario thanks to his infinite CC and defensives.
  • Or a warrior who has at least 5-6 ways to lock you down and even more gap closers.

Would you like it if we took these things away from the aforementioned classes? No? Then you understand why I am mad at DT removal and I why I don’t bother with arenas anymore.

As MM hunter I cannot excel at anything and my only niche, which was some easily countered but good burst physical damage has been taken away.

DT was fine IMO because it was the only thing MM had… My argument still stands… MM is ruined in the arenas.

You’ve clearly not played Outlaw

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