Hey~ Explain me why worgen that is a living creature cant be a monk because of their feral nature but Forsaken that is a corpse without ki/chi/whatever can.
The only fist-fighting class for a race that everywhere is using claws to fight is unavailable. They even can be DKs even though Worgen is immune to undeath~
I still don’t understand why Goblins & Worgen can’t be Monks. There is really no reason, why they couldn’t be this. I think it’s so, because they have this special Questline, which is before MoP. I know, it’s a bad argumentation…
Not entirely sure but i think it’s because the Worgen’s old model won’t work for a Monk. The only races that can be Monk are the updated races with the new rigs, thus can perform the animations of the monk class.
The only reason why Goblins can’t be monk is because the Worgens cant and it’s just to balance the ratio between the Alliance and the Horde.
No lore reasons anyway. The worgens and the goblins are both getting new rigs in the near future, so maybe then they’ll both be able to be monks?
At this point I don’t understand why all races can’t be all classes.
Coin of Many Faces, Orb of Deception, and others, prove that you can be a worgen monk just fine. There’s no in-game reason, but maybe there’s a design choice in there somewhere that nobody has ever bothered to explain…
worgen = rage
goblin = greed
neither can achieve the state of enlightenment because of those things
a dead person can still be one with chi, in fact thats the whole point - Forsaken monks are a reference to real world monks meditating in death(desecated monks meditating as spiritual guards for temples)
its simple if you think about it
Sure every model can do the animations to some extent (even some old models, on an all GM server you can use the models and see what they can perform) but it’s not smooth. Worgen models look ridiculous doing some of the monk animations and some don’t even work at all due to the model not having enough to support them.
I do believe with the new rig update they’d be able to be one. I know i’ll make one in an instant 
It’s all to do with the Worgen and Goblin unique starting zones that are both set during the starting events of the Cataclysm. If you look at all the other starting zones the Monk Trainers are all Pandaren, who were not generally seen until the time of Mists.
Yes, I know they retconned the Draenei starting zone so that there was a Pandaren explorer who witnessed the crash and helped the survivors while also teaching the way of the Monk, but it would have been unfair if the Alliance had one less Monk race, and Azuremyst is a lot easier to add things to and update in the future compared with the timelocked Kezan & Gilneas.
And if you want an IC reason on why there are no Worgen or Goblin Monks, put it down to not being able to spiritually balance themselves adequately enough. Worgen are cursed, and the effort to control their more primal and savage side may mean they cannot easily follow the path of being a Monk. And Goblins just seem a tad too chaotic! ![:wink:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")
Could there be any Worgen and Goblin Monks? Yes, but they would be exceedingly rare and more an option for a special NPC rather than a player choice. Like that Pandaren Death Knight follower in WoD for instance.
About starting zones… if Blizz take Panda(form most isolated land of Azeroth durning this time) to events of TBC on Azuremyst then everything is possible. Even some Pandaren living in kanals of Gilneas and jupmed out when he hear howling of couple thousand of Worgens.
Or Worgens and Goblins can be a brawelr’s uthil they dont leave their starting zones.
About you IC reason… Worgens are enough balanced to become Blanace Druid’s…and Goblin’s (how THAT happend) can be a shamans, but not Monks? And Orcs for example are fountains of tranquility and peace, ah, and not touched by fel energy. Undead? They eaven should not have Chi after death etc
There is no lore reason why Worgens and Goblins cannot be a Monk
And I hope that Blizz add this class to those races with new models
Way to inner peace through way of the monk should be available to all races …even Goblins
Well couple weeks ago in TW event we saw gnome demon hunters kind goes agaisnt there own logic and ethos.
All races in a game this stale and ret conned should be all classes.
Trolls have a racial ability called Berserking, which is the most intense form of rage. Orcs have a racial thats literally called Blood Fury. One of the human racials called Every Man For Himself which screams of selfishness, and selfishness clash with monk teachings just like rage and greed. Yet all 3 of those races can become monks.
I read somewhere a while ago, it has to do with the models.
worgen models arent designed to perform monk moves.
It has to do with their specific starting zone, they happen before MoP and therefore can’t have monks.
Every race minus allied ones starts before MOP… In Cata~ Monk traineer was always a stupid addition in the zone. Maybe they should be a Heroic Class and start in MOP 
Ai-Lis Mirror disagrees, they can do that just fine.
If you used a bit of common sense and research, you would know why. Worgen and goblins don’t fit the class because of their nature alone, former is a savage animal with barely any self control, kept in check by a powerful artifact, but inside, in spirit they are fury incarnate which goes against the monk-ish ideals, which is all about complete harmony in body and soul. As for the latter… Why would a greedy race that only cares about money, become monks, point being, in goblin words - where’s the profit?
As for Worgen DKS, it has been explained in the past, in lore, that those immune to ‘‘undeath’’ alive, their corpses can still be raised and twisted as pleased. War of the Spider is an example, like worgen, those nerubians were immune to plague that turned others into undead, but when they died, their bodies could be raised into undeath regardless, hence Azjol Nerub, Old Kingdom…Anub’Arak, the crypt lord.
Probably the only inconsistency in the whole Worgen DK scenario is when you kill your former ‘‘friend’’ inside the building, i believe it talks about GIlneas which was walled off at the time of Arthas raising the player DKs, it would make more sense that the worgen came from areas surrounding GIlneas, like the sons of Arugal
Trolls have a racial ability called Berserking, which is the most intense form of rage. Orcs have a racial thats literally called Blood Fury.
Both of which are rare circumstances, it is not their natural state, both races are quite spiritually peaceful, orcs more than any other, given that large portion of their race is shamanistic.
Oh irony, Orc say that…
Worgens have full control of their will, and its not curse thanks to Scythe of Elune, is not that this artifact keep in check curse all the time, it was used once forever, thats wy Worgen’s dont suddenly go Insane.
Gnomes are too wiced minded on technology and some of them wanna be robot again bu still this race can be a monk. I dont see reason why Goblins can’t if only greed its a obstacle, as about profit Goblins can find profit in everything
And about Shamanistic society of Orcs…yea Mag’har, Fel Orc’s for long time was disbanded form shamanistic ways and only thanks to Thrall some of them return on that path
No irony, though i guess in your mind, orcs are all brutes. Think again. Large part of their race is based on shamanism, harmony with themselves, spirits and the elements.
The scythe made you who you are, it simply put a mental barrier, so you can control yourself, to an extent. However spiritually they are fury, rage incarnate and that does not bode with the monk class. As lore says, fury cannot be tamed, even the Wolf Demigod Goldrinn could not, from whom the worgen originate .
Genn Greymane is always at the brink of insanity, look at the way he acts, his actions, one moment he can be fine, and the other moment he is a rabid animal. Not exactly a definition of harmony
They also care about their allies, about individual development. Where as goblins are the exact opposite, caring for nothing but money, they would sell their mother and children for profit.
Not all of the Orcs, most of them, and Goblins are to not all that materialistic to betray for money thier familly for example.
Genn…have just a little bit to choleric character, maybe he like surrender to his savage side to much ;]
And about the curses that not allow to become monk…Void Elfs are conected to the Void itself ans still can be a monks. Way of The Monk is philosophy and trying to achive ballance wathever the obstacle is, thats why Worgen Curse is not argument.
I think one of the major problems for Worgen and Goblin monks is that people can’t seem to get past the Pandaren aspect, like everyone immediately says that the Worgen and Goblins left their home long before the Pandarens showed up, but why do we need bears to teach those 2 races? I hate seeing a Panda shoved awkwardly into every starting zone and everyone seems to think that punching and kicking can’t be learned without pandas.
We have Tauren paladins, even though there’s no such thing in lore, there’s Tauren sunwalkers, but for gameplay reasons it’s just a paladin, many classes and specific specializations aren’t actually a thing for many races in the game but they made work arounds, specs aren’t racially locked just so the lore checks out, and several classes are just giving out with some lore written in to explain how that race can suddenly be that class.
why can’t Worgen and Goblins be Pugilists or thugs or just civilians who had to learn to defend themselves during the start zones while unarmed?