Moonkin vs UH DK 1v1 in wpvp

TLDR : just another rant about Balance Druid’s defensives and survivability.

I’m making this thread 'cause I’m getting really tired of this, and I know, knowing Blizzard, that we’ll probably not get any significative changes to our kit in the next months even probably for the entierity of the expension.
And that makes me a bit worry.

The game has been released for a month now, these concerning issues regarding druid’s defensives have been brought up to Blizzard by the Druid community even during Beta and yet, our talent tree is a complete mess, our classe design is completely outdated and lackluster in every way possible.

So this is just another thread, another feedback to Blizzard in hope they rework this spec before every moonkin players give up and either reroll or outright cancel their sub out of frustration, this is just another thread in hope that Blizzard realise how silly what I’m about to show you is, and mainly how terrible our self healing and defensives are in comparison to other classes.

This is a 1v1 situation in World PvP, me (Moonkin) vs some random UH DK with 0 PvP experience whatsoever (I didn’t take a screenshot during the PvP encounter for obvious reasons you’ll easily understand but I pvp checked him afterwards, he’d 0 xp).

Two screenshots :

h ttps://imgur.com/K6XSQ6G = damage dealt from me
h ttps://imgur.com/34iAnBB = damage taken from me

So, we got, roughly, 6M HP in PvP.
As you can see, I dealt almost 19M HP to the DK, and he hit me for 12M.

That’s a 50% damage difference in my favor if my maths are correct.

I even used a healing pot as you can see on the bottom right of the screenshot, since it’s unironically our biggest defensive.

You’d like to know the outcome of that duel, wouldn’t you ?
The DK killed me, and I can go even further by telling you that he ended up the fight with almost 100% HP.
That’s not a joke.
At the end of the fight, I had dealt 50% more damage than the DK, pressed every single defensive in my possession (+ a healing potion) kited as much as I could, and I was dead, and the DK was full HP.

Just ??? I don’t know what to say, I’ve been playing druid on and off since Burning Crusade, played it a lot in Shadowlands so I don’t think I’m particulary rusty, and honestly I’ve never felt so helpless so often on this class.

There have been so many situations where I reviewed a 1v1 encounter in my brain, trying to figure what could I’ve done better, but at the end I’m just like, yeah nothing to do, wildcharge’s on CD , barskin’s on CD renewal as well maybe could’ve tried getting a Cyclone off but for what purpose anyway, I won’t be able to top my health and the guy will instantly reconnect to me when the Cyclone wears off.

Our mobility, which once was our strongest attribute, is now matched by almost every class in the game, well-known wheelchairs as Paladin / DK or Warrior have better mobility than us, and my statement ain’t even an exaggeration.

To break down the fight against the DK it went like this => I engaged the DK putting dots on him he grabbed me => I bashed him => IBF + AMS => I wildcharge away, incarnation send some damage => 2nd grab => I Mass Entranglement => He trinket the root (or maybe UH have some root removal I ain’t aware off, that’s a possibility too).

Then at this point I was just dead, trying to make some gap but he’s perma slow applied on me and run at me on some horse with 100% speed or something.

I can’t recover, I can’t kite, I can’t do anything I’m just sitting here trying to survive until I get some cds back, switching between Baloo the Bear and Bambi RP mode.

I barskin + Renewal (pot already used during the process described above) + Frenzied Regen but this barely does anything. And I eventually die.

This is so frustrating that some random PvE players with 0 xp can statcheck me like that, guy literally ended up the fight full HP even though he took 50% more damage.

Just take a look at DK’s kit and take a look at moonkin’s.
Are Blizzard really that blind or do they just don’t give a single damn about this spec?

As a Moonkin you have Barskin and … that’s all !
That’s literally our only defensive, and that’s not even a joke.

Renewal barely does anything, frenzied regen is 2 GCD and by the time you use it you’ve already taken more damage than what it heals. Regrowth heals for 7% of your health.

Even our mobility isn’t that outstanding given how mobile the other classes are now.

And I’m making this thread about that DK encounter because that’s the fight that made me snap and tell to myself “holy hell I’m getting cancer playing this class”

But this exact situation has happened to me a lot lately, thrice today.

Faced an evoker :
=> 11M damage dealt from me
=> 8,5M damage dealt from him
=> I’m dead / he’s full HP => statchecked

Faced a fury warrior (this one I actually won though)

=> 26M damage dealt from me.

Wait do you realise ? It literally took me 26 MILLIONS DAMAGE to take down a WARRIOR !! Like … ???

=> 12M damage taken
=> I won but even though I dealt more than twice his damage, I ended up with like 10% HP and was about to lose, it was very close.

I know this is TLDR, I know maybe you guys don’t wanna read all that text but God Damn, why does Moonkin feel so weak and so helpless as soon as you’re unable to kite your oponnent.

I feel like playing a class stuck in 2010 while every other class come from the future.

Please fix Moonkin, and not in 6 months, not in the next expension, we’re paying a subscription for this game, this can’t stay that way.

Blizzard, please.

Anyway, Thanks for reading. Rant off.

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This is the biggest issue for me…
Although I play feral/restro I feel so slow now.
UH can kite me with their horse, 2 death advance and icechain spam.
Can’t connect to mobile casters either with 1 leap and a global cd on shapeshifting… Not to mention the 40% slow does nothing when everyone slows you 50% + .
They just walk away from you. If you spam shapeshift you do no dmg/cannot slow cause global cd.

While having more gap openers and in some cases able to remove the slow.
Also theres a bunch of slow effects that is not removed by shapeshifting now…

Druid lost their mobility and melee range in catform, while everyone else gained, we’re now behind the average melee lol.

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