More bad designed things from Shadowlands that are still in the game

[Ãrthûr-silvermoon]

Shadowlands was one of the worst expansions for Frost dk, The covenant abilities were not the best and the design choices absolutely ruined the spec’s flavor; Like:
1.Adding target cap to the game and nerfing the hell out of Howling blast with that.
2. Destroying the spec’s consistent damage completely.
3.Having to play the same build(Breath of the Sindragosa) for an entire expansion( Pve wise).
4.Adding Might of the frozen wastes(again) to the game to add more controversial to an iconic dual wield spec(with one-handed artifact weapon).

It is fortunate that we’ve endured that expansion(well atleast most of us) but We have most of these stuffs still being the case and they still exist in the game.
Examples:
Cleaving Strikes is one of the worst additions to Frost Dk in the whole history of WoW, It added clunkiness to one of the most fun and smoothest specs in the game.
Howling Blast is still hard capped and getting Rime procs is not rewarding at all! Rime used to be one of the most rewarding procs in the game because of how strong Howling Blast was; yet now we prefer to just focus hardly on Obliterate and ignore one of the spec’s core procs.

Although the consistency of Frost is not as bad as it was in Shadowlands and Dragonflight, it’s not great to say the least and Might of the frozen wastes still exists in the game instead of having the option to transmog your weapons the way you like.

Legion Frost dk was one of the best if not the best version of Frost dk, It had consistency, your cooldowns were rewarding, your procs and abilities all were rewarding to press and the spec was so smooth.
So…
the Feedback and Conclusion is:

1. Remove Cleaving Strikes from Frost Dk.
2. Make Howling Blast and Rime the rewarding tools they used to be(especially in AoE since by removing Cleaving strikes you’re nerfing your cleave potential).
   3.Remove Might of the frozen wastes from the game to stop the confusion in weapon usage from the spec and add more transmog options.

[Felovver-draenor]

I wanted to main DK during shadowlands.

I quit because obliterate didn’t feel good to press and the damage number was delayed.

When I came back to wow and found out it’s still in the game, I didn’t even bother leveling him up.

[Elsiriana-daggerspine]

Pls u are OP in PvE and u have 2 choices in build wich are almost on the samd level yes thats right OP blizzard is nerfing arcane mage but Frost DK somehow is their Lovechild. No u are more then fine no wait u need a massive Nerf tbh.

[Gorbathust-draenor]

@Elsiriana-daggerspine

Frost DK somehow is their Lovechild

I have never seen anyone use the word DK and lovechild in the same sentence. Not going to lie, I do feel that somebody up there maybe started a DK alt, but love child, no sir, we’re the same old clunky mess that somehow still works. A bit like an old soviet Lada car.

[Deinhardt-argent-dawn (Deinhardt)]

if we where a lovechild,we would have gotten a windwalker tier rework ages ago, the numbers have always been “okay” with this class, the design and gameplay feel is not.

[Ãrthûr-silvermoon]

2 from the 3 suggestions I made are not performance related at all, Playing with Death and Decay as a Frost death knight is clunky as hell and you can just take a look at Dk’s forum and see that everyone want it to be gone.
Removing the Cleaving Strikes from Frost dk will impact their AoE quite a lot so that’s why I said remove Cleaving Strikes and buff Howling Blast to compensate.

I am not really asking for buffs because Frost is at a good state right now performance wise but gameplay wise it still feels clunky because of the stuff we got since Shadowlands, and the suggestion about Might of frozen wastes is because it confuses ppl and don’t really give ppl the freedom of choice with how they want their character to look etc, things like Might of the frozen wastes and single minded fury should be transmog and cosmetic features not gameplay related features.