On a 4080/5800x3D/32GB 3600mhz system, I’m getting much worse fps in-game due to CPU or memory bottlenecks unless I disable SMT in BIOS.
I really don’t want to have to do this because having SMT off gives me much worse performance in every other normal game. This is like a 30%+ increase in WoW in areas that have awful performance in general, like Valdrakken and crowded events.
They still run poorly with SMT off but I go from 35/40 fps to 60 or so. Can you please do something about this because the game’s performance has been abysmal since launch in these areas, even on high-end systems, and I don’t want to keep rebooting to BIOS every time I’m switching between WoW and other games.
I can provide any logs necessary or anything that can be of help.
Something must be really wrong with your system if you are having these FPS with a 5800X3D.
I got one myself with 3200Mhz CL14 RAM and an aging 2070S.
In Valdrakken with settings on 7 depending on how many people are there it ranges from the 60s at worst on a patch day to above 100 late in the evening.
On average i’m around 90 FPS when looking at the AH from the big stairs.
Have you checked if your RAM is running in dual channel mode (2 or 4 sticks in the proper slots on the mainboard)?
Is the XMP profile on and the RAM actually running at 3600Mhz?
Have you checked for a bios update?
Check temps and if everything is boosting up to the proper speeds under load.
Check if anything in the background is hitting the CPU hard.
And obviously disable all addons and see if that does anything (it should at least give you some FPS even if you only disable the nameplates alone).
It could be an outdated or unoptimized addon issue.
Like i said, especially nameplates and stuff like raider.io can cause FPS drops with many people around.
I also think that something is absolutely wrong because I was getting a similar performance to what you’re stating a few months ago around February or March, then I stopped playing until after 10.1 dropped and now I’m getting horrible fps in Val, and crowds.
I’ve checked and double-checked for everything you mentioned. I’m also using settings of 7 for view distance and environmental details because nothing else makes a difference. For RAM I’m using 4 sticks so all 4 are filled out, and nothing else is using the CPU or running in the background, I tried removing all addons/WTF folders, I tried reinstalling the game and the entire Windows and nothing changed.
That’s insane to me because I’m never getting 90 even with SMT off, and that improves performance drastically. Here is how my CPU usage looks like per core/thread with SMT on and off: https ://imgur.com/a/PkQ7gCe (threads 13-16 were also enabled but I didn’t capture them since I mislabeled them in Afterburner)
No core or thread is being maxed out ever, but there is significantly higher usage per thread when SMT is off.
I did manage to get around 100 fps in Valdrakken near AH even with SMT on during tortuous testing and reinstalling Nvidia drivers, trying out different Windows settings etc, and the game ran fantastic. Then I literally put the PC to sleep, and after waking it up, it went back to the same 40 fps awfulness.
It makes 0 sense and it’s frustrating af because I’m seeing people quoting much higher fps with the same or weaker setups. I’m also not having similar problems in any other game so I’m not sure this is purely a system issue either.
I can’t really see anything out of the norm except that your FPS are way too low
Well this is normal since WoW is mostly using one main CPU-thread.
I have to ask again if your RAM is running at 3600Mhz (1800Mhz dual channel).
Please check again in CPU-Z because if it is running at default 2133Mhz then it would explain a loss of about 20-30 FPS.
Maybe the XMP got turned of somehow when you were disabling SMT.
Checked both the BIOS and CPU-Z multiple times and it does list 1799mhz since it reports half speed always, which would be 3600mhz which is also listed in BIOS. I enabled both XMP and set it manually to 3600 there. CPU-Z is also showing 2 x 64-bit which should be dual channel in recent versions.
Could you upload a screenshot of your core usage and fps in Valdrakken when standing at the stairs and looking at AH? I’m wondering if it’s a similar distribution to what I’m seeing because it feels like the game is barely using any of the CPU there.
Is it from before 10.1 or after? I stopped playing a week into 10.0.7 and then started getting awful fps only recently when I renewed my sub 2 weeks ago. Aside from that, I’ve really no idea what else can be the case that can make this big of a gap.
Which Windows and which particular update are you running? Also, which Nvidia drivers and in-game/control panel settings for WoW itself?
I’m still on Win 10 (never change a running system ) and ver 21H2.
Have you tried updating your AMD chipset drivers and also checking that the power plan is set to the windows balanced default (not the older ryzen power plans)?
Nvidia driver doesn’t matter, i update when there’s a new one usually.
Ingame settings don’t really affect the CPU much except the viewing distance and environmental details and 7 is the sweet spot imho if you want high refreshrates.
With your 4080 you can max everything and even enable RT shadows if you like and you will still be CPU limited in most cases
) and ver 21H2.