What kind of grinded my gear a little. Was seeing all the blue posts comming out welcoming elf into the MVP family. I was not even aware there was this many different Blue posters in this forum. i wish they where more a bit more interactive with the rest of the forum community.
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The jelly gang is here. ![:laughing:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/laughing.png?v=6" ":laughing:")
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They are mvp also normal human being - they have their opinion regardless it matches your point of view or not. Same as you can have your opinion.
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not that i endorse opâs opinion, sheâs generalizing
and you generalize too
unbiased people donât do very well in life (imagine an unbiased lefty or an unbiased righty, both sides will attack him), and they wonât do very well in here too, not that they do not exist, they doâŠbut itâs pretty low drop %
from what iâve seen, itâs all about helping others while maintaining a âcalmâ profile while you do your critique, also, very good use of the english language didnât hurt anyone!
blizzard -and all blizzards out there- canât handle true unbiased
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@All: A few quick notesâŠ
First, there are several blues, who posted in the Punyelfâs welcome thread, who are not responsible for WoW forums or mainly work in other languages than English.
MVPs are indeed just regular players, but MVP title does require things other than just a massive post count. Generally speaking, most MVPs have been around a fairly long time and have a âtrack recordâ of being helpful. Additionally, there have always been fairly few MVPs at any given time, so new MVPs are fairly rare occasions, hence the welcome threads, when such a mile stone is achieved.
MVPs also have no minimum post requirement as such, though we are requested to maintain at least some activity and inform the blues, if we intend to be absent for a longer time.
As other posters already noted, the forum change significantly changed post counts⊠I had almost 3 500 post when the old forums were closed⊠If I recall correctly 78 of them carried over.
Fan boys and girls? Yes, I guess to at least some degree. If we were not playing, we would not be here⊠But 100% agreeing with Blizzard? I would say no. I have defended many Blizzard decisions, but I do not agree with all of them. As an example, I am not entirely happy with the silence on additional realm connections, but that issue is not critical enough to make me quit WoW.
Also very much worth noting that the âGreensâ are not a hive mind, there have been times when we have had significant differences in our points of view. We speak our mind and try our best to âlead by exampleâ, when it comes to things such as forum rules.
What else⊠Oh yes, we have NO moderation powers, so we can not ban anyone and ingame our bug reports and such are handled the same way as all others. We also have no priority when it comes to tickets, though I think (I do not know for sure) the people who handle them see our status.
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How is it misleading? o.O
Everyone can read what it takes to apply for MVP status and as long as anything they do and post is within that frame there is nothing misleading about it.
Is it strictly speaking needed? Probably not.
Is it useful for new people to get a grasp of who to ask questions? Yes.
View it like a signpost in a town you do not know, you do not necessarily need one, you will eventually find where you want to go if you ask enough people, or you could look at the signpost to have some quick orientation.
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Not sure this would work, BIAS and favouritism from the forum posters could lead to MVPs who donât help like the current ones do. I think the current MVPs are doing fine. Donât be hung up on small things like post count, look at what these players are actually doing to help others on the forums.
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@Wingh: I think several current MVPs would retain their status, since they are generally well liked⊠and as for me, if I lost my green text, I would just continue posting on the topics that interest me, such as connected realms, population activity, various questions by newcomers and returnees and so on.
@All: An additional note that I missed in my earlier post. All current EU MVPs have their title, because Blizzard asked us, if we would like to participate.
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And thatâs very good that you would still choose to help people, Blizzard have clearly seen this and Iâm sure thatâs why they had chosen to approach you for this.
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I kind of feel like the MVP program isnât managed very well by Blizzard these days.
So hereâs a wall of text about that! 
Story time first! 
The MVP program originates from the old battle.net forums in 1995.
This was back when Blizzard didnât really have much in terms of Customer Support, Forum Moderation or Community Management. The forums were basically left to themselves outside of a post here or there by Nebu or BWhittle (web team).
On the Technical Support forum there was a guy called TheHelper who was extremely vigilant in terms of helping people out with any technical issues. He offloaded so much of Blizzardâs technical support that it was unbelievable. So Blizzard chose to give him the title of MVP â Most Valuable Poster. They made his text light blue (not green!) so his posts would carry much the same credibility as any official Blizzard poster.
So the MVP program is the continued legacy of TheHelper.
Later on Blizzard followed it up with more MVPs like tâkron, Negafox and Dinobot, who were also extremely tech-savvy people who contributed a lot on the Technical Support forums.
Much later Blizzard announced World of Warcraft they created a new forum specifically for that game, and they also got more robust Customer Support and Community Management. And of course they carried over the MVP program as well, because it had worked so well before.
But rather than sticking to tech-savvy MVPs who resided on the Technical Support forum or the Customer Support forum, the idea of Community MVPs was introduced. Originally it was people who wrote guides, news posts, and otherwise helped out with gameplay questions. A bit the same as the tech-savvy MVPs, just with a focus on gameplay instead.
Over the years however, the forums have moved somewhat away from being a source of news, guides, and gameplay support (because fansites have developed strong platforms for that), and become more a place for discussions. So Community MVPs donât really have a defined purpose anymore.
I think thatâs also why the MVP program gets a bit of flak these days. Itâs incredibly vague in terms of its purpose. When you see an MVP these days itâs like: âWhy is this person an MVP?!â And no one knows!
I saw on the US forums some months ago that they had re-made their MVP program so you now had to submit an application if you wanted to be an MVP, and then Blizzard would review the applicants and pick the best ones, like it was some job interview. It seemed absurd!
At some point Blizzard and the community forgot about TheHelper and why he was given the MVP title as the first.
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Picked by the community, well, that wouldnât work, whatâs asmongoldâs latest character called? People would pick that.
Iâve been on the forums a long time, I probably had everyone elseâs post count beaten, 40k I think. They even offered me MVP 5 years ago but I declined. Most MVPs are helpful and will correct people when they think they are wrong. Thatâs one reason I declined it, I like to point out when someone is being stupid in a way that may offend them, most deserve the way I say it.
I have seen MVPs say many things against Blizzard and not had their status taken away from them, some have even had a forum ban. People think they toady up to Blizzard but when they disagree, they post about it.
They arenât paid and donât get a lot of special treatment, yeah they get into betas and maybe alphas, but I got into the last alpha too, but they donât get much beyond that. Except hate from people like the OP who just donât like them for some reason.
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tbh sometimes i like you⊠sometimes.
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High post count doesnt mean you can get MVP. I for example stated several times if it would ever offered to me i would simply put deny it or request it to be removed as i cant stand the attitude i would have to follow while wearing the MVP title and not to mention im most of the time disagreeing with Blizzard. High post count means absolutely nothing
Also: Who cares if some people have a green text. Ignore them if you dont like them.
i signed up for betas for 11 years straightâŠand then i get an email, 3-4 days after the legion launch, to participate in the betaâŠ
not related whatsoever but i had to throw this out.
I donât know what itâs like today, but when I was an MVP I felt like I received quite a lot for something as simple as posting on the forums. A lot more than just Alpha / Beta invites.
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Who in their right mind would trust the community to do that? Blizz would have to veto most choices.
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elaborate on that :o
make a fake social media profile with a down to earth (believable? is this a word) female pic? 
Yeah defo agree with op - they are mindless scrubs who love pointless gateways and suck up to everything bad this game puts out. Annoying as hell. MVPs shouldnât even exist.
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Iâll preface this by saying that itâs a long time ago, none of the WoW Blues back then are around today, and the actual CM of Blizzard EU has also changed, and I have no idea how the MVP Program is handled in this regard today.
And I will also say that whilst I appreciate everything I have received, and I know Blizzard were giving it out of kindness and generosity, then it also felt excessive and to some degree deceitful toward the rest of the forum community. Thatâs not a concern I ever raised back then, itâs just how I feel in retrospect.
Just to lawyer it all out 
Anyway,
Alpha/ Beta invites for all upcoming games.
Collectorâs Editions of all games I was associated with (WoW and D3 for me).
Holiday cards each year, and a present one year too. Book of Cain I believe.
Some promotional t-shirts and posters.
Some invitations to Blizzard HQ and Gamescom for fansite / community events (never went, you had to pay for flight and entrance of course, and it was during normal days).
Extra communication with Blizzard CMs and GMs (Messenger to begin with, then a secret forum. I think they have a Discord channel today).
And some early insider information once in a while (because the MVP communication sometimes overlapped with the Fansite communication).
And probably a few more things that I canât remember.
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