MW monk in arena and bg’s in 9.1

Okay after spending alot of time doing arenas and bg’s on my mw. Mw are pretty much the bottom of the bowel for healers again in pvp.
I can survive a stun better with eminence, I can port a hunter stun so I can avoid traps and dh hunt and all the others, thats all good. But I’m still getting 100-0 in a stun with dematerialize (30%dmg in stun going down 10% each sec). Not that great to be honest, 1 interupt at 100% health and I’m dead straight away, you can fake cast all you want it won’t help you as a mw.
I still do 0 dmg in 2v2, and my heals are kind of nerfed since they removed the 20% vivify pvp talent sadly, it’s hard to heal from the start unless I’m using clouded focus legendary. But any dps are just handicapping themselves by taking a mw monk in 2v2 since all other healers do a 3rd of their dps dmg, I can’t run in and do any dmg or I’m cc’d or nuked.

I still can’t survive well in bg’s, feels no different from before 9.1. As I said many times in the past the only way I survived as a mw in mop and wod and middle of legion (AMA season) was becuase soothing mist was not on GCD. You’ll see mw monks will still hardly be played in 9.1 in arena. In BFA the only reason mw monks survived with soothing mist on gcd was the pvp tanking trinkets, defencive azerite traits, stacking versatility corruptions. No healer could die easy in bfa like mw can now.
I knew mw were still going to be bad in 9.1 when I saw they did not remove soothing mist off GCD. They won’t be usefull in pvp until they do. I wish the developers or someone played mw at at least 2k+ rating in arena in mop and wod to see what I mean about soothing mist GCD and how crucial it is to be off GCD.

(I made the same post on the monk forums on the US servers too). Just want to hear everyones feed back if they’re struggling still as mw too.

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If you really want to push mistweaver you got to go venthyr ( for 2s) and i think necrolord for 3s) but you then sacrifise windwalking and pve mistweaving :confused:

Well I only have pvp gear so it’s all got vers on and it’s meaningless it says I have 31% vers and I die in 3 secs in a stun still with the ‘dematerialize’ (30% dmg reduce then 20%-10%) talent up as well (this is when my port in stun is on cd). I watch mysticallx stream alot, I watch any mw I can like Drainor too. But they also complain ALOT about the state of mw in 9.1. I’ve watched mysticall in recent streams practicing the new talents in arena on his mw he’s still not perfected it thats for sure. Also mysticall isn’t rank 1 he’s multi glad but he only got 2.7 achiv for the first time last season of bfa.

Both, but just be honest are you struggling to get anywhere when you play a mw monk in arena? I usually fly to duelist most season I play and do it within less than a hundred wins in either 2’s or 3’s, but this season as a mw monk it’s been the hardest thing to even reach 2.1 than ever before. I get constant rejection from lfg because no one wants to handicap themselves by playing with a mw monk, al lother healers have alot more utility and do a ton of damage alot of the times a third of their party dps damage, but mw monk can’t really help do any damage.

now that we got some practical

my highest cr was 1791 in 2s
couldnt play 3s at all

boomkins are super easy with “peaceweaver”

windwalker is impossible now

arms is insane now (grievious + the burst is to much you cannot stop spamhealing)

retri is easy in most cases just disarm wings (until he reaches you after 3min max depends on the map)

beastmaster is very hard also

dh is impossible (worse then 8.3

mw still feels bad and misses way of crane and azerite flame

imo mistweaver should be able to use cocoon and fortifying brew while stunned and dematerialise should be baseline

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