My apologies and some information about the guild

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greetings hord players of AD i woofie/Tichi/Cynderwoofie have come to apologise for my behaviour in general chat one week ago

i’m here to say sorry for my behaviour as it was un acceptable
i let my emotions get the better of me and said things that i shouldn’t and the week silance i got as a result was well placed and more then needed

i would like to clear things up as well, i know there is one thing that seemed to anger a lot of people and that is about something i said in my anger and frustration
in my anger and frustration i said that there was a law in my country that made it “legal” to do sexual things to other people, this is not true and is something i made up in my bad state of mental health
this does not make it right that i said it ofcourse and i am not proud of it either, i take full resposabilaty for it and wish to ask forgiveness from the players of AD

something ells that people seem angry about is the thought that i approve of touching minors, this is simply not true, i may hate kids (this is something i’m working on as it’s deeply rooted into my past) but i don’t condone the touching of minors, i would not hurt a child, i would not touch a child and mostly i would never do anything to a child (child in this case is 18 years old and under)

because of this i have cut all contact with the person known as zeyl and dime
the reason i did this is because of the problems hanging around them involving this subject, i realised that i don’t know the full story of what happend and who did what, now i don’t wish to know the full story either i cut myself from it and wish to stay that way

some of you might know that me and my guild moved to a diffrent realm thanks to all this, we as a group decided that we will start anew on AD, we will not associate our selfs with past members that have done any of the following: abuse and or sexuall herassing others

we made internal changes to the guild aswell, we have addopted a difrent name aswell, this to make things more easy for us and others i will not say here, some of my mebers are still not fully feeling save in AD as they still think we will be bullied and herassed

i would like to finish with once again humbely asking for forgiveness from the players of AD and clear up the miss comunication that is that my guild is full of paedophiles, this is not true as we all share the same idea that i have
we do not condone any of such things and will kick anyone that would do such a thing and be banned from the guild aswell

and uhm, sorry for my bad english it’s not my first language and i’m dyslexic aswell, sorry

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Oh good god not again.

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Do not allow any child rpers to exist and i dont think anyone will bother you

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miss

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Zeus… ZEUS!!!

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Well hey, if you really mean this, then good for you. I don’t have anything against you critters, I just can’t condone when people tolerate outright degeneracy among their communities. And I mean degenerate degeneracies, bordering on needing psychological help.

I’d suggest leaving everything at that. If you’re really sincere about what you’ve said, then I can only hope that you or your guild won’t do anything else to restart this mess. Keep that from happening, and I’m sure everyone will leave you alone.

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It takes courage to step up and admit fault, apologize and try to make amends.

That said, it would be naive to just fully accept everything you have said and move on. I know there will be some who will not forgive what has happened and rightfully so.

It is good that you and your guild are making an effort to learn from this. But until we see it reflected by you and your guild’s actions, I personally will not accept this until it is seen if this is the truth or not. This is only because those involved have lied before.

What happened with this guild was immoral and wrong. That won’t be forgiven or forgotten.
And a post to the fourms blaming mental health is a tired excuse.

I and I believe many others will not give you or your guild a free pass from this. Understand that.

We will see what happens now.

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No in ten characters.

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i see that most are still sceptical about my message and i understand
it’s ofcourse hard to believe someone just by a wall of text alone

that is why i will do my best to not anger anyone and move forward accordingly

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whoa!
!!!

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just like me

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People will come here and mock you, refuse your apology, and tell you to leave.

And they will have that right to do so, given the actions performed in the past.
Many like you have come before. And their fate is either to fade away from the roleplay community, adapt and try to better themselves…

Or the most common case:
Devolve into a self-rightous arrogant person who doubles down on their behavior and supports such actions, only making things worse as they consume themselves in a repeating cycle of always blaming others and polluting the community.

Commendable that you have not chosen to go down the latter path.
The community won’t be light on your apology.

Maybe some will accept this apology. That is their choice.
Understand that no matter your intentions now, not all will forgive what happened and with valid reason.

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If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me?
For I must be traveling on now
'Cause there’s too many places I’ve got to see

But if I stay here with you, girl
Things just couldn’t be the same
'Cause I’m as free as a bird now
And this bird you cannot change
Oh, oh, oh, oh
And the bird you cannot change
And this bird, you cannot change
Lord knows, I can’t change

Bye-bye, baby, it’s been sweet love, yeah, yeah
Though this feelin’ I can’t change
Please don’t take it so badly
'Cause Lord knows, I’m to blame

If I stay here with you, girl
Things just couldn’t be the same
'Cause I’m as free as a bird now
And this bird you cannot change
Oh, oh, oh, oh
And the bird you cannot change
And this bird, you cannot change

Lord knows, I can’t change
Lord help me, I can’t change
Lord, I can’t change
Won’t you fly high, free bird, yeah

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I like to think you’re genuine with your apology, but I just can’t be sure due to the sheer amount of all the crap that’s been going on with you, your guild and everything else.

I would love to believe you, but I can’t.

I guess time will tell if you truly are genuine.

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Yeah but like…
Why kit RP tho?

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It is commendable to own up to your mistakes. For many people here things are maybe not forgiven, but as long as you learn from the mistakes of the other 5 threads you may stand a chance at actually contributing to the RP community.

Just know that you will likely be under scrutiny from the community for a long time. Some people will avoid you entirely. Some people may approach you. You (your former guild) broke the trust of your fellow roleplayers several times over so do not expect a warm welcome everywhere you go.

Make the best of it and maybe that will change.

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Gonna put my comment here rather than starting a fresh post:

What you said absolutely top-tier vile and disgraceful. You put it down to being “emotional”, but no. I don’t believe the disgusting perspective you have can even be linked to emotions. Furthermore, you took it a step further and invalidated my personal trauma. You talk about mental health in your apology, yet seem dismissive of the impact you had on so many victims with your hateful words. For me, personally, there is no forgiving your behaviour.

I also want to clarify that I don’t condone bullying and harassment. However, this is not the same as being held accountable. I’ll certainly be avoiding you like the plague both IC and OOC.

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Yeah, I won’t be avoiding them. I’ll be holding them to the agreed standard of the entire realm.
They’ll either act like reasonable human beings or remain undesirables.

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To post something that’s a little more sincere than the abject horror I first posted:

As others have said, people are going to meme and mock and not everyone’s going to accept the apology. While I appreciate that you’re able to admit your past mistakes, personally some of the things you said - even if said in anger - are pretty difficult to just let slide.

To somebody who you said was a ‘victim’ you simply put “cool story bro”, you wished death upon those who said bad things about your guild, and the worst one by far was that you mentioned a law in your country where victims of sexual assault are jailed if they don’t fight back, which I just… don’t understand why you’d ever say something like that to be honest.

Furthermore there was a members of your guild who on one character were playing a child vulpera, but on another character was/are a Goldshire ERPer on Alliance side. With that in mind, do you really think the accusations of kiddy-fiddling were particularly unwarranted? If someone is willing to ERP on that account and willing to play a child on that same account, it’s not a massive leap in logic to come to the conclusion of “child ERP.”

Personally I was kind of relieved to see you guys move to another realm and essentially become someone elses problem because you caused all of us a massive headache, and frankly until you all stop playing as children I’m still going to consider you as the source of a migraine.

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I am lead to believe via past conversations and screenshots, the OP is that individual

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