My opinion on WoW Shadowlands @wowdevs

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  1. I’ve leveled up over 15 level 60’s through both of my accounts, Covenants are an issue for all of them alongside, Renown and conduits, This is to even scratch the surface of being a decent alt.

  2. Why nerf speed running plague fall there wasn’t anything wrong with doing the dungeon in less than 4 minutes, you just add more time that is isn’t needed.

  3. Getting gear from shadowlands is like getting blood from a stone, There were mentions of buffing loot in PvE, This is the biggest lie i’ve ever been told. Literally nothing drops. A lot of people will agree with this that if you do normal SoD/Heroic SoD that’s 20 bosses and maybe recieve one or two items, Then not to forget the people who get domination socketed gear don’t hand it out as their hording it for their off spec or some crap.

  4. Achieving KSM is an absolute F***ing nightmare if you are not meta, I literally made a resto shaman just to fit in & rush KSM. You’ve added an additional layer to something that wasn’t needed at all.

  5. PvP now is basically who ever has the biggest burst wins and the most cc, If you want a fast 2.1k go resto shaman / bm hunter thank me later.

  6. Pugging on alliance is like LFR and the R doesn’t stand for Raid it stands for something completely different and if you’re looking for them you’ll get them. Standing in the aoe and /dance. The distance between horde skill and alliance skill is insanely different in the higher brackets of pvp/pve.

  7. If 9.1.5/9.2 is a flop i’m 100% going new world and if new world sucks worse than wow i’ll continue playing new world, At least amazon owns it and doesn’t have perma play time in the office.

  8. The biggest issue with the current game is that i can’t even play my off-spec if I’m a resto shaman and i want to do keys as elemental or enhancement, WELL lets talk about that, I wouldn’t do a +5 because the gear i get from a +5 is crap, So i’d be looking to something worth while like a 15 or 17, No actually I can’t play elemental as necrolord because NF is far superior, I can’t play enhancement because Venthyr is far superior, So best is to just stick to one spec not because i want too because i am FORCED too, Being forced into something is a common familiarity at blizzard offices. Same example also applies to mages which is absolutely disgusting, Frost NF is crap… So i must go to a different covenant, Ahh you thought i was done there… nono, If i want to go to a different covenant 1. I must wait 1 week 2. I will be hard reset on renown 3. I will have to REGRIND the renown i’ve just done on the previous covenant i was with. I mean do nobody see the problem here how is this “fun” this is an utter waste of time.

  9. This one made me laugh, Valor is DOUBLE the amount of conquest and i’m sure you’re going to say yeah well you get a lot more valor because completing an m+ takes longer than a 2minute arena. NO. Playing for valor is total crap. spending 25-30minutes per run for +65 valor in season 1 is a joke. Then it got buffed great so now i get +200 for that time, Ok not bad but not good. Then we look at conquest +35 a win… Are you having a joke arena’s at 1.9k+ is much more harder than scripted m+ content like who tf is actually approving these crap systems i can do a better job if i was drinking and on drugs.

  10. Waiting 1-4 weeks for a legendary from the shadowlands world bosses is an absolute joke. WHY must i wait 1 week or 3 weeks for a shadowlands world boss to spawn so that i can get my heavily layed legendary which requires a metric tonne of soul ash which i might not want to forget is within boreghast. Missives which CANNOT be changed. Crafted gear which can be extremely expensive and then if i want to max it have use another legendary item “Soul cinders”, Which again is an additional currency which does NOT need to be there.

  11. Torghast this is a joke. I don’t want to be there any longer than 15minutes per run. Lets look at some of the things i’ve previously said about LFR/LFG, Then lets look at coldheart interseria, Even if i find decent players they still get 1 shot by the rediculous aoe range off of one of the mobs there, Which is like a 1/2s cast. Then look at the anima powers that i never get from there, So if i do a layer 9 or a layer 10 i get spoiled for choices on what i want, As soon as its a layer 12, nah mate just get anima ashen phylactery some crap that heals 5% health randomly, some other commons, more commons and then right on floor 4 last boss i get something i could’ve used on floor 1/2… Twisting corridoors wan’t even fun for what it was worth, Getting the mount and then making it fully accessible to everyone with a monitor and mouse. worthless grind.

  12. The maw is by far one of the worst places ever created in wow there’s no need to even explain it, You reading this completely understand what i’m talking about if you’ve been there more than 5 times.

  13. Korthia is just crap enough said, Nothing like the good old days like timeless isle which was actually very worth while to go to.

  14. Despite the covid 19 outbreak, For what you’ve released and what we’ve experienced 100% you should give the next expansion for free the way the game is right now losing over 50% of the player base since 9.0 → 9.1 (from 6m active players to <3m) reason why… unenjoyable content, Grindy af for no reason, more layers than fort knox so many layers infact probably beats their internal security on paper aswell.

  15. Bots literally dominate anything worth farming and their never getting banned only if the bald man mentions it on stream (which he can’t do that job for you anymore)

  16. /2 & LFG is literally people just selling services constantly as if there is no off switch for it, Even with addons installed to ignore them still they find new ways very innovative i may add.

  17. Mostly everything here is a negative in one way or another and this is because the game itself and its current state is total horse crap, I recommend if you’re new to this game don’t waste your time, The bald man streams FF14, There’s literally like 40+ content creator’s who will no longer make any content on WoW this is exactly what a dying game looks like, You will have more fun with OSRS/RS3 if you don’t care about graphics, Theres farm simulator, Truck simulator a lot of different games that are much better than the current state of WoW.

  18. Complaining on the forums seems to be the way to actually get any message across seeing as the plaguefall speed running got nerfed to the ground.

  19. I don’t use forums, I don’t care about a lot of things written on here, I’m writing here today to share my opinion which has value as i’ve spent a lot of time playing through this horse crap & played in higher/late game content.

FOR REAL JUST DELETE COVENANTS AND LET US ENJOY THE GAME WE PAY FOR THIS ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME

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I feel sad for you, but to each their own i guess.

Fun detected i guess?

Honestly, if u put in work it aint that bad, if u play 5+ chars and do one dung per week on each then yes, its hard to gear up and even harder to gear up with corect gear.

Disagree big time, there is tons of people playing offmeta and puging 18+

Its a big mess for quite some time, but imo it always was. Each season/expansion there was something busted.

Cant say much about aliance realy, but ive seen people on forums talking stuf like " its not that bad but its not good either"

This is simply " find guild frienda comunity" issue realy. I know a lot of people playing off meta covenants ( even those that makes zero sense) and doing high keys just fine, because in the end for 99% your covenant doesnt make or break the key

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No, more like, people were kicking if someone didn’t want to skip.

Nah, the nightmare part is about the people you play with, not that you’re not meta. The nightmare part is still there even if you’re playing a meta class.

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Och, i meant its somehow related to either the mount or some kind of renown farm.

If it was to reduce toxicity then i guess its a good move.

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This a thousand times. Alt experience is bad but what’s even worse is that even off specs demand another covenant.

If they do not pull the ripcord in 9.2 I’ll just take a break from this mess. If the next expansion is not getting rid of covenants and similar systems I’ll not resub to the game.

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I’ve never felt forced to play the meta specs as it stands but that might certainly be a me thing where I’m not invested in WoW enough to care and just play for the fun with buds.

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How can you disagree with the KSM being a nightmare you’re literally playing horde, guardian druid, ursoc’s fury & night fae… this is literally the most desireable tank… what happens if you played a different legendary, different covenant, different faction… let me tell you an untimed key or removed from the group :slight_smile:

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And what if i tell you i did ksm s1 when that wasnt considered a meta?

Or what if i told you that you realy dont need to play meta for ksm? Its just coincidence that what im playing rn is considered meta, also, im gona swap soon.

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the loot buff wasnt “you are guaranteed 5 items per run” it was literally making sure that more items dropped per boss across the entire group. so they delivered on literally everything they promised on that one.

the entire idea of not getting invited if you are not meta has been a thing forever, thats not something that started with shadowlands, and the requirements for KSM havnt really changed too much outside of needing both tyran and fort.

just because something else is better it doesnt mean you are unable to play it, i have someone in my regular group for dungeons that is playing necrolord elemental and doing perfectly fine, if i remember correctly he is always at the top of the overall damage at the end of keys, so you are more than capable of doing it as necro.

the 1/2 week wait is only if you are changing back to a covenant you previously left, and it also keeps your progress, so if you leave NF at renown 40 and then swap back to NF in the future you will still be at 40 with all the buildings and anima that you had stored up. please at least learn things before you complain about stuff and make yourself look stupid.

that depends on the gameplay loop you are looking for, i really enjoy torghast because i have played a lot of roguelikes in the past, and a lot of people are not looking for that which is understandable, maybe having something else in game that could give soul ash/cinders would make more sense and then maybe a boost from there or something if they want to , because i would rather it didnt just get removed, there are a lot of people out there that enjoy it.

there is absolutely nothign wrong with the maw anymore, we can use literally any mount we want in there, and the main problem with it was the eye of the jailer, thats gone now, what are you even complaining about.

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Lmao, imagine actually believing this.

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And the chances the WoW devs will read your analysis of the game is 0.00% because the company has a whole load of some serious :poop:going on at the moment. Oh and you know it’s well known that the devs have little or no interest in what we think on the EU forums it’s the backwater of the entire community too. So yeah good luck with this analysis getting even a modicum of interest from them.

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Something is better than nothing.

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okay feel free to explain what issues you have with it, maybe im missing something, but since the removed the major issues the other things are very minor to the point of basically not mattering

and yet you got it completely wrong in the initial post, saying that switching to a covenant takes 2 weeks and you have to start from scratch, and yes im aparently the “imbecile”

okay so i make a choice to play heroic because i dont want to have to play a lot more often and i dont want to go through the process of looking for a new guild to raid mythic with so my opinion is invalid? seems fair i guess…

PvP is a complete and utter waste of time that is completely unbalanced and not worth wasting my life on, im not offering any opinions on that because i dont care at all, im talking about something that i know about,

now you are just talking about things you know nothing about, i couldnt care less about skipping in dungeons and other such things, i basically havnt pugged a single dungeon this entire expansion so i have never needed to care about it, i never fell behind on renown so i never needed to care about catching up, your welcome to offer your opinions on the game you are playing, but there is no need to try and personally attack someone you dont know just because they disagree with you. members of the community like yourself are one of the few major issues with the game that everyone is always turning a blind eye to and its getting kind ridiculous these days

the point i was trying to make is that its all well and good having opinions on things, but everything is subjective, just because you dont like something the way it is doesnt mean that it needs to just be compeltely reworked or removed, because there are thousands of people out there that like it perfectly wel the way it is, meaning that in order for you to be happy a lot of other people will have their enjoyment of the game impacted,

its also worth pointing out that a lot of the time complaints people make is basically just whining that they want things without having to put in any effort, so its kinda childish in the first place, there isnt much of anything wrong with the gameplay loops in placed like torghast and what not, just get in there for 30 minutes a week do what you need to and ignore it for the rest of the time, whats the problem?

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dont care at all

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I beg you pardon, but wtf? Who df is getting breast fed at 20+?! Where d’hell do you people live?!

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its normal in sweden and denmark.

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No, it really isn’t.

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I’ve never been much of a fan when it comes to Siegmund Freud, but this is clearly his department… At the same time, I am at least in case of Denmark not suprised. Hamlet’s Oedipus complex is legendary, so I now at least understand what inspired Shakespeare to write a Danish version of Sophokles’ stylistic howler…

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It’s probably a metaphor and insult for people who gets everything given to them by their parents/state or something along those lines. Given the tone of the rest of the post that kind of insult doesn’t surprise me though.

I can confirm that breastfeeding in Denmark is commonplace among people in their 20’s. Don’t judge us too harshly.

Usually it tends to be more about how the welfare state is too lenient and forgiving though.

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By the goddess, I’ve never been happier to not be the girlfriend of a Dane… (no offence) Imagine dating a guy, who is still… Hell no… :tired_face: