If I did I fear I would teach you something, which I said something about.
So you can’t?
The incentive is to summon people at portal stones for dungeons, because you cant fly/ teleport you have to walk through zones making the world feel more alive.
(I understand convenience of rdf and flying mount, but remember every convenience kills mmorpg).
Another incentive is that you cant learn skills in one city, you have to be at every place. Good example is dalaran auction house, would old world capitals absolete.
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The best word to describe your incentives begins with an r and despite it being a great word, it’s not allowed on the forums.
“The zone feels alive because I travel through it” is a ridiculous thing to spout
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We’re talking about RDF, not flying mounts. Let us stick to the topic, shall we?
You already see less people traveling in each zone because the majority are too lazy to fly or ride to a dungeon and would rather wait for two paty members to summon them.
Yet more moot arguments.
Which is kind of what’s already happening.
More moot arguments.
You lot need to stop posting because all you’re doing is regurgitating the same moot arguments time and time again.
Everything you’ve mentioned that will happen if we get the RDF is already happening. So no, RDF would not have a negative impact on the game.
I don’t play on a PVP server, so the open world PVP argument is moot to me as well. Saying that, if people don’t engage in world PVP on a PVP server, then that’s on them and the individual server community. I’m also pretty confident that those who would ignore open world PVP then, are the same players who are currently ignoring it.
Those who want open world PVP will engage in open world PVP and seek it out, those who don’t want to, don’t, and won’t. That’s how it’s been since vanilla as well.
Again, no negative impact really.
Moot argument. We never had RDF nor flying mounts in vanilla and we could never use flying mounts outside of Outland and Northrend. Flying in Azeroth was added in Cataclysm. That said, the Dungeon Finder tool in TBC was even worse than the current iteration we have in Wrath classic.
Oh boy, this is an old and moot argument. An overused argument at that.
You want to see people in the world. You don’t get to tell others what they want to see or do. You’re being far too subjective here, pretty much like every other anti-RDF person out there who can’t wrap their heads around the fact that if the world is dead today, it’ll be dead even with the RDF tool implemented.
I suggest you read my suggestion properly on how to solve this, though, before making any further attempts at shoving subjective opinions down our throats.
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No they can’t, and they won’t. The only thing they know is to quarrel and stir up a flame war, in the hopes that Blizzard will close these threads.
The anti-RDF lot have zero arguments. The only thing they have are subjective opinions that they try to shove down our throats as they label their opinions as ‘facts’.
Fact is though, that opinions are not facts. That’s what they seem to not understand.
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Actually the current system works against being active in the world, because you have to actively pay attention to it and then have to drop whatever you’re doing to travel possibly sideways across the entire continent to be in an instance for 10 minutes.
Meanwhile RDF you can tag on, while doing actual activities in the world like daily quests or farming resources and once it’s done you can right away return to whatever else you were doing. Which would result in more ppl both doing dungeons and stuff out in the world. (ie. Nobody can be bothered to go from Sons of Hodir dailies to clear Nexus and back again they will do one or the other)
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People still use AH in the old cities, not everyone are hardstuck in Dala just because one profession grants access there. Sure there are less people, but old AH is still relevant.
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Exactly this; without RDF I do not do Dungeons. I do not feel like sitting with my eyes glued to the chat. I want to go questing, farming, exploring while waiting for a dungeon. And then just have a TP there and back again when the dungeon is done. Travelling for maybe 20 minutes to get there after waiting for as long for group to assemble, and then travelling 20 minutes back afterwards means I spend 1 dang-blasted hour to run a dungeon that lasted maybe 20 minutes. No, not going to happen.
I do without Dungeons thank you. So RDF, please, but later. #NoChanges.
Kind regards your missing tank/healer (maining a pally)
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Exactly this.
Fix dungeons so we have mega dungeons like brd, ST, BRS.
RDF turned dungeons into a theme park (or by them becoming a theme park allowed for rdf adoption), expected to be cleared by default by all regardless of comp / cc.
At this point, why not just create looking for loot queue that drops a random piece of dungeon loot into your bags every 15 min and doesnt need any grouping up at all?
Bring back actual adventuring.
No, u still see pple going to zeppelins/etc for other reasons aside from dungs.
It also affects negatively less world pvp happening.
Except majority of pvp servers are monarchies and even ones with some faction balance there’s still hardly pvp, take Thekal for example i have seen multiple times hordes and alliance just running past each other and lord forbid any comradery between same faction cause not a single time in my memory I’ve been helped by my allies when some world pvp does happen.
To add without rdf I just dont have the willpower to even run more than 3 dungs with this community its god awful lol
We do need RDF for leveling areas and for new players the hype is more less down anyway.
I mean exampel; I wanna do gnomeregan but it won’t happend.
The current state of the game or server im in has both locked so no new players can join atm prolly never unless blizzard take that off that is maybe even if they do.
Low levels like me that is around arent many so there is no way and yes it’s on me that im not fast speed rushing everything trying enjoy game and have fun thats point right?
I been whispering mostly people around my levels beacuse you cant invite to high exp start be bad but still no answers.
So… im sorry we do need RDF even its cross realm stuff that keep people play w/e server they want without feel its limited.
You dont win a debate by stating someone has moot arguments.
My whlle topic is about rdf, just because i sidenote same negative consequence flying has with rdf doesnt negate my post being about rdf
With rdf 0 people would walk to instances and just teleporting
But i do play on a pvp server, pvp servers are even the most popular servers.
Exacyly, thats why world pvpers go to flightpaths and around dungeon entrances, rdf makes it so people are less gankable
And this is why i mentioned flying and rdf, because every convenience makes the world dead: it makes zeppelins, flightpaths, boats and walking through zones useless because people just tp or fly over.
I disagree with your suggestion, because people will go for least resistance. The issue is that when people spam teleport dungeon with RDF, i have to do the same to not get behind in time. And that destroys world immersion because people who choose to travel normally rarely see anyone anymore.
Maybe read my solution, i am for rdf if its with a cooldown like 2 times a day. I am against unlimited RDF teleport spam people just standing afk in city all day.
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“Still see” but almost non existent with RDF
They should fix whats broken and thats faction ratio balances.
I play on jindo 50/50 ratio RDF would negatively impact world pvp by a magnitude of difference.
Sorry but this argument doesnt negate world pvp isnt happening. I walk sometimes past people, because im in a hurry to a dungeon, but luckily someone from opposite faction can kill me because RDF doesnt exist atm and it doesnt teleport me into a dungeon.
(2 out of 5 people still have to walk and you get teleported outside of dungeon with dungeon finder, creating a window of opportunity for pvp happening)
I say something weird but maybe thats how the game was intended? (Rhetorical question) Not do dungeon spam till 80 like and of wotlk since cata and in retail
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meh cba to even fight this, too much energy arguin with anti rdf pple
I don’t even have the staying power to do one Dungeon a week. Sigh. I don’t want to spend upwards of 1 hour or more for running a 20 minutes Dungeon. If this is how it was meant, I’m OK with it, as I like Questing and exploring way better than dungeons, but I also am painfully aware that I stand quite alone here.
Ever since launch of Classic I have done a grand total of 2 (TWO) dungeons, I had hoped to up this number in the second half of Wrath C. but /No, not going to happen.
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im fine either way
I understand your concern. But when you are at a dungeon you can do multiple runs no? Just walk in and out. (You mught think whats the difference to RDF then? Its the diference of opportunity to get ganked)
But i am not against RDF per se if it had a timer like 2x a day. (I even made a post as a suggestion because its now all or nothing, the answer might be inbetween). I am against unlimited spamming RDF standing afk in a city all day.
Yeah, only I do not want to do the same dungeon more than once.
A. I do not have much time every time I play, and one dungeon - plus travelling time - is fine.
B. I’m not after levelling via Dungeons, only after having fun trying that part as well (I even plan to talk to Behsten first from time to time - hope he’s there again).
PS:
Nope won’t ever get ganked - I play on either PvE or RP servers, for this exact reason 
Have you read my solution?:
“But i am not against RDF per se if it had a timer like 2x a day.”
It helps peoole with less time, but makes it so people cant abuse RDF teleport spam from inside a city