Mythic +10 Pay to play

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Mythic + is a scam for most players.

This is part of Blizzard seedy game design to get people to buy WOW tokens.

Raid IO demand for a +10 Mythic is 1000 -1200 to get this score you have to have complete M+ at +10

If you dont have enough raid IO you must pay 250k to be boosted this is about $20.00 worth of gold your need to do this about 10 time once on each Dungeon to get enough raid IO to be accepted into groups.

Thats a cost of $200

Right now WOW is in a terrable place IMO the game is pay to play or pay to win what ever you want to call it.

Its just no possible for me as a moderate player 2-3 hours a day to continue if i cant get a group without paying gold.

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What do you win?

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Shake. My. Head.

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Start your own group and/or play with friends?

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If Raider IO is here to stay (which seems to be the case) I really hope that the people behind it, would one day make a version only for M+ where it counts keys completed or something like that.

Back in Legion, I was so happy with M+. I don’t raid because I don’t have the time to tie myself to it for 2-3 evenings a week (I’m a single mom). It was SO nice to have this way of doing challenging content.

Now in BFA with this Raider io I can’t do M+ anymore the same way because I don’t raid. I would then have to pay for boosts all the time to keep my IO up. And this sux. I guess I will just have to settle with being casual and doing lfr then :cry:

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Get gud! Hehe just kidding.

Seriously, in my view, the problem are the broken affixes.

You can’t simply just “run your own key” because depending on affix/dungeon, even a +7 will be virtually impossible for a casual group of bloaks.

I know some mythic raider neckbeards will say all m+ is already too easy they do +43 runs already. But, the reality for most casual/semi-hardcore (which is what m+ is), the affixes being poorly tuned for the dungeons is a not so insignificant obstacle.

I play a resto druid, RIO 800+, and I can get endless invites to 2-9+.

10+? So far endless stream of declines. I can’t give a ratio of accepts to declines, because so far only declines.

I have done +9s in time, more than 3x on multiple dungeons. Still, no love.

Resto druids are the most highly represented healer, at all levels, more pronounced at higher levels, so can’t blame the class.

Your math on the costs is accurate, but I would never pay. If my cap is going to be +9, with an RIO of 900, I am resigned to my fate.

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No one has to pay if they don’t want to take that shortcut. There are other avenues open to players, like:-

  1. Do keys with your guild
  2. Do keys with your friends
  3. Join a community like calm keystones who do not care about scores and wont desert your key
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In legion if you were so much behind there was a lot of groups which boost keys for free. People boostin or just helping with lower keys too. Because they farmed there Ap and leggos.

Now there isnt reason to help with lower keys even boosting weekly ones is rare these days.

In legion really high geared and skilled player sometimes just joined lower keys for zergg or for rest between keys etc… and that was something what really helped you with pushing your own key but now when fortified and tyrannical are from start there isnt reason to run anything low. +5 with lower geared players feel same hard (sometimes harder) as 10+.

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What Punyelf said.

Theres many options. I’ve always found actually getting to know people and doing stuff with them works.

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Never paid for any m 10 and don’t have high rio yet i get accepted pretty often.

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I have pugged the vast majority of my keys since the start of the expansion. There are groups that demand 1k Rio for score and there are groups that don’t. I applied with good amount of success to those that don’t. I don’t apply to those that do. I never paid for any boost. When I started exclusively pugging I was at 400ish score. Obviously I didn’t apply for +10, but raised my score up gradually. Ofc if I applied with that score to +10 I’d have gotten declined and for good reason.

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Get a guild, ask friends, look up that community called Calm Keystones… And take off your tinfoil hat, it’s absurd.

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Leveling is a scam for most players. You have to have enough time and desire to play to get to 120.
If you dont have enough you must pay 50$ to get boosted this is about 50$ worth of money. your need to do this about 10 time once on each Expansion to get enough chas maxed to be o be accepted into mountfarming.

Thats a cost of $500

Right now WOW is in a terrable place IMO the game is pay to play or pay to win what ever you want to call it.

Its just no possible for me as a moderate player 2-3 hours a day to continue if i cant get a mount without paying money.

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Jk get gud lol. You just dont want to struggle in +10s with 700io lowscore pepes cause that stuff is just a wipefiesta. If you dont do your own keys you cant set your own rules, simple as that.

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You dont have to do +10, people buying boosts are the cancer in the game.

  1. Why do you need a +10 if you arent capable of doing a +10?

  2. you buy a boost now you have +10 gear you now join a +3 with 370 item level and do 3k dps and fail to do the key in time due to knowing nothing about how to play.

If you are good enough for +10 you have no trouble getting +10 groups.

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I…ehm…am scared of humanity now. This is overwhelming my head right now.

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  1. raider io existed in Legion as well;
  2. the site creators can’t do what you ask because Blizzard does not make the information on completed keys public. The only public info is that of the realm top 500 runs, and that is what raider io uses.
  3. you don’t have to settle for anything. At some point, every person that did higher clears than you and did not pay for a boost played with a group of friends or in-game acquaintances, or simply got close to that point and then made their own PUG. If you want to do higher clears, that is pretty much how you do it, and if there is a choice between playing with acquaintances or pugging, I’d take playing with acquaintances any time.
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This right here is exactly the problem, the playerbase that wants a free pass and will result to insulting people when they don’t get things their way.

Admitting that they can’t finish a +7 unless they get boosted and are getting angry that they don’t get boosted and resort to name calling and toxic behavior, then calling others toxic.

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If you mean, me? I have finished ALL dungeons >7+. Almost all at 9+, multiple times.

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I know it sounds very… suprising, but you can make your own group and no one will decline you. except people who dont wanna play with you obviously.

you can either make your group and progress like everyone else did, or you can pay 250k and get a boost. that’s a pretty big variation in my opinion.