tell that to group finder
I have honestly no idea why people want to keep using groupfinder while climbing the M+ levels. It is like people donât want to have a nice experience. People choose actively for this situation they are in, and then complain on the forums. I donât understand anything about it.
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Because not everybody want to bother with guild politics or have enough irl friends to play with and ingame friends tend to get lost when skipping big parts or whole expansions
i often have to pug one or 2 people to fill party
Just join a damn community. There is no guild politics or whatever. You just be active in the LFG channels when you want to play. Along the line you probably make some friends and want to play more often with.
Having a group is not a luxury that got out of nothing. We all took action.
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that is too much work and responsibilities, i play to relax to have fun, not work
Playing the ingame LFG is way more work. And what responsibility do you talk about? It is also unlimited amount more fun and relaxing to play with likeminded people.
This game is intended to be social. If youâre not willing to be social, youâre playing a different game than whatâs designed for.
The difficulty is already similar to this, just not in the LFG tool. If you have a guild or friends, at the start of the expac you probably did mythic dungeons with 150-160 ilvl.
The problem with this is that once you outgear it, that content is gone for good. Not only this, but even if you didnât out-gear it quite so fast, youâd still see the same amount of âelitismâ you see today. People would still prefer the âmetaâ classes and roll with them as theyâd give the best chances of actually doing the content. After all, who wants to be stuck on Tredâova for 2 and a half hours?
When aging people tend to become less social, considering how old this game is many players are way over 30 and 40
Would prefer meta classes, but wouldnt be punished as hard for not having them, now timers force to do it as fast as possible to get more loot.
I would like to do raid type of content, but raids are too long and require too many people, 3 days of raiding is something i, and many other people simply cant afford.
All i see is just excuses. You can join a guild that raids once or twice a week. You can join communities for key groups. You can start your own groups and take all the off meta specs. But nah, its easier to complain on the forums and hope that blizz will change the game the way you would like, and then continue to complain because you still need to interact with people.
That is especially true when it comes to higher mythic+, which simply isnât designed for quick and easy fun without coordination or communication.
Thatâs why pushing M+ while only pugging can only ever work up to a certain point. And there isnât anything that Blizzard could do about that. No balancing, no rating, no nothing would change the fact that people who have friends in game will always have a better experience than those who donât.
As I said back in WOTLK when the dungeon finder was released: For a lot of content you need other players. And getting in touch with them is largely up to you. And while Blizzard is trying really hard to make âother playersâ part of your subscription fee, they can NEVER truely deliver on that.
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Of course it is only excuses. Every thread complaining about raiderio, meta comps, bad experiences in pugs with leavers, it always comes down to people not willing to put in effort because âit feels like a job and i want to just have funâ, âI canât invest two nights a weekâ,âItâs too much work and responsibilitiesâ.
Every hobby requires some investment in time and other ressources
and if youâre not willing to put them into your hobby or you simply canât due to restrictions you put on yourself, the hobby simply isnât one for you.
But itâs easier to complain and blame either Blizzard or the âcommunityâ.
Im a customer, i write what i would like to see for the way i play the game, same way you could say people who wanted houses were simply complaining as caves were good enough
Were they complaining or did they invest time and effort into building huts?
And being a customer doesnât mean everything will or should be catered towards you.
I donât join an Ice-hockey club and complain that i want to play with a football instead of a puck and tennis racket instead of ice hockey stick.
Constructive criticism is all good, but complaining because itâs not catered to you isnât.
You pay for access to content and systems. You canât buy other playersâ willingness to spend time with you because Blizzard canât sell that.
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Yes, it is in fact utter trash in lower keys, because mobs dont live long enough for them to ever ramp up, unless the other 4 people seriously underperform.
Convoke is only really powerful with CA, so itâs a 3min CD. Why take a class that do some burst every 3min?
As for all the utility, rarely needed for 15âs and below ^^ Personally, iâd take anything else than a boomie for 15âs and below.
You donât need IRL friends, nor a guild, nor a community. You need an in-game friend network, who may happen to be part of any of the aforementioned groups too, but not necessarily. My friend list has well over 50 people on it, the number of them who I know IRL is 4. Out of that 4, one plays Classic only, another is on a break, the two others never played WoW in their life.
So instead of adding people to your friend list (2 clicks) and asking them if they want to run a key (~5 seconds), you choose to whine on the forums. Smart and efficient, yes.
Iâll be dinging 40 soon. Iâve become way more social over the years. I see the same thing happen with IRL friends: as we get older, we realize that having people around ainât so bad after all, and theyâre not all complete idiots like we thought in our teens.
As I get older, I get lazier too, and as such, prefer efficiency and convenience. Running with in-game friends is easier, faster, more fun - more efficient and more convenient than relying on LFD.
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Exactly this 
I am 41. I take the lazyness of the communities since i dont have to spam the ingame-lfg for hours and hours anymore. I just go in the evening after work, dinner, and with my coffee to my pc and post 1 message in a discord server and i am running somewhere in the next 10 minutes 
Lazyness wins 
And is it far more enjoyable and relaxed. Dungeons gets finishes after wipes. It is fine when people make mistakes since we are human beings and not machines. No rio-crap, no covenant requirements, no meta. Everything everyone wishes for. And all i did was joining failtrain-discord.
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Worked in legion and before, now not enough people left who are willing to play wow in my community, especially after BFA
I very rarely pug M+, even as a âmetaâ healer. I donât mind failing the timer, I just canât stand the quitting after a wipe or two. And honestly if/when I get KSM Iâll probably just stop doing them altogether, and only do them a couple of times a week just to boost my weekly vault. The rewards otherwise just arenât worth it.
When I do form my own groups though Iâve stopped paying attention to meta specs and just pick highest ilvl/RIO rating players. Give me the frost mage who interrupts and dispel curses while doing mechanics over the boomkin who expects me to heal through his DPS turretting while they stand on all sorts of hurt.
Iâd suggest just trying to friend good pugs to regroup with, or even realm changing to a bigger server and finding a solid guild.
Iâm not sure how you can bear to play this game solo 
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