Raid i ment obviously lol
Given the fact that most estimations of the game are about 2million currently. While was estimated 6 million at DF launch imma say no. We dont have numbers,
However, ur clearly unaware there several people who use addons and more to track playercounts. Not to mention build statistical data and meither point to enougu new players to stabilise what ur after.
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I used numbers on raider.io which are part of your “addons and more to track playercounts”…
You’re clearly cheery picking my comments in a vain attempt to not be wrong, imo.
I know im not wrong lol. I dont need to attempt anything.
Newsflash, blizzard dont make systems just to p*ss you off. If drcisions and designs are msde theyre generally there as their statisticslly successful.
If u seriously think WoW gains many new players however i dunno what to really tell you. It seriously doesnt lol
Ah ok now it makes sense.
I get your point, but at least the first few mythic raid bosses are a lot more hassle free than a M+ group to me at least. I am probably a “special” case due to how I scare myself because I do not want to give others reason to be displeased with my performance (I am doing fine in general but I always imagine in my how people will act if something goes wrong with M+ based on the horror stories)
The privilige of getting into a guild and making friends in a game whos litteral genre is called “Massivly Multiplayer Online Roleplay Game” focus on the multiplayer part. It’s realy not that hard to get into guilds and if beeing misserable and having a hard time alone makes you maybe consider joining one i consider this a 100% success of the system cause news flash: A multiplayer game is meant to be played with other people. Stop treating your Pug mates like Bots that are just there so you can get your dungeon done. Start talking to people, have conversations, join a guild form this “priviliged” guild or friendship circle. It’s litteraly a fundamental basis of the genre and the game and was one of the main apeals that made it so big.
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So essentially you are saying that a fresh lvl70 new player that has never played the game before should be 100% proficient in m+??
In a pug i find it unlikely.
In a premade sure, but that same statement applies to m+ but yeah first few are easier then the rest, but also, their forced to do atleast 6 to get vsult reward equal to ours.
To stack we get awarded for failure, while they simply dont.
It is better Mrs Kazzak doesn’t talks and haven’t conversations. She doesn’t know how to.
Thats like saying, go play another game and your issues will disapear. Ppl play a specific role for a reason. Playing a dps/tank or healer is very very different. You dont play just to be there, i suppose you wanna also have fun or push your limits…not to just reroll to something completely different so you can get to the groups and then suffer trough the dungeon and have nothing out of it.
Also at 3k ppl will check you, and on rio tank/dps have a separate scoring…so they will instantly see that hes 3k havoc and 1350 on vengeance with like 4 dungeons that he didnt even stepped in as tank. If anything…it will make it way longer to get into the groups of key level he needs.
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you`re not entitled to being invited
no one is forcing you to do m+
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Yea… like azerite armor, for example.
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Sadly, I agree 
I wish I didn’t agree
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The whole M+ this season is a miserable experience for me. 1st the mythic gear from the vault was moved to level 20. My motivation to push past 18 was killed. And the dungeons are badly balanced. Balancing around fortified and tyrannical never works. Both affixes must be removed and the dungeons to start receiving a proper tuning.
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Not past 20 you don’t.
The problem is that the entire game is a joke in its core currently, because they balance three different game modes at once for pro players and casual players at the same time while also trying to create talent trees that are enjoyable for new players. How about they flush some of their game design philosophies down their golden toilets at blizzard HQ, when it comes to M+ and raiding, and start again from a blank sheet of paper with what they actually wanna provide us with.
Basic questions:
- Who is my target audience?
- What does my target audience enjoy?
- Why does my target audience log in?
- How can we design dungeons, so people don’t get anxiety and extreme sensory overload, if they don’t use 20 addons and haven’t played the game 5 hours a day every day for 5 years?
- How can we design the game, so people don’t have to buy a mmo mouse to just bind all their abilities without getting carpel tunnel by pressing things like shift+4 (I actually have a mmo mouse now, but I talk for the people, who don’t, because I also used to not have one).
- How can we make Mythic+ feel meaningful? Certainly not by adding a recolour of a ground mount as the highest possible reward while putting insanely well unique models in pvp, even though NOBODY PLAYS 3V3. WOW. ROCKET SCIENCE. Not like, a middle schooler would do better business decisions.
- RESULT ANALYSIS. If nobody plays something, maybe it’s time to move on and stop pumping the money of your investors and of your players into it, so the 5 people left there, don’t quit. Just a thought for you in the next expansion, because the basic logical thought processes already failed at Dragonflight, and seemingly will not change in 9.1 looking at the gladiator mount that nobody will get again
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Your motivation was gone or are you just not good enough for 20s ?
Its Perfectly ok to Reach a celling of your skills
As well as its Perfectly ok to do other stuff then playing wow week after week.
Im for example very satisfied today because i did really nice spring cleaning of my apartament and on top of it i cleared my baseny from some of the junk that was in there for years 
instead playing wow
Its ok to take a break when wow is boring for you
Would removing keystones get you invited to pugs at those levels? Can’t see many reasons why it would. They would still go with the fotm, or whatever flavor they think is best at that point in time regardless whether it’s reasonable or not.
This, while it most likely creates new issues. No key means you can run any dungeon at any level at any given time. And since there’s no lockout, people are gonna stick to one dungeon they need/want - apart from the runs for the achievements. This is guaranteed to be countered in one way or the other, creating more problems/annoyances than this solves (which was close to nothing to begin with).
In the end this isn’t much of a M+ problem, this is just the limitation of pugs.
yes. just because premade groups are pushing keys doesn’t make it a good content. you can’t raid, you can’t do dungeons basically you can’t do endgame content as a solo player these days.
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And amazingly now its gone u have plenty screeching for borrowed powers return.
They thought we would like azerite gear and evolve into a system we did enjoy. They didnt make it to p*ss you off, they made it in attempts to create a game where u got upgrades from all content.