Mythic+ PAUSE option

You could just stop being toxic, and maybe a little more understanding.

Good luck with your next attempt at making friends with someone :smiley:

Ah sorry didn’t see that bit.

Unanumous vote, obviously.

Person needs to go AFK, asks for a PAUSE
You either agree or disagree
If you wish to leave;
Leave
If you wish to wait 5min or whatever until pause is unhit:
Stay

Current:
Person goes afk

 and your options are: Either leave or stay, up to you.

The only difference is;
You have an option to agree, as a group, to pause so you can continue once emergency is over.

Actually gonna add here:
Your 2nd argument is quite solid.
It gives people time to plan if they hit it for planning sake.
This is one way it can be abused - but who is truly loosing here or being abused in the end?
You can have people plan before the dungeon too, using routes like MDT etc.

So, how does it actually contribute in a negative way to be able to plan mid dungeon?
Timer is there to be stressy and be able to kill things under X time, not for unplannable stuff?

I have no issues finding new friends, and I do not consider myself toxic for providing arguments with some more ground to reality in them than just feelings.
You’re welcome tho and hope you enjoy a forum with less people who upset you now that you know how to ignore everyone!

hiding ones forum details is sometimes good option if you have people following you from post to post with intentions of just flame because their own toxic behaviour, i can understand peoples urge to hide these type of details and also it kinda is their own business if they want to share information on detail with others about their forum profile or not

the one wondering how to ignore such player without the provided ignore button from blizzard you simply go into your own profie and navigate to preferences gear icon and go to users and there you can put the players name nönnönnnööö-tarren mill which you see by clicking him example and looking at the top of ur browser

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/u/nönnönnööö-tarren-mill/profile-hidden

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Yes you made an argument with grounds and shared a view point similar to my own.

But you denied another perfectly valid argument which is shared by the wider community and refused to watch a video detailing exactly why this were the case.

You’ve not upset me. You’re just not worth conversing with because you’re unable to debate and would prefer to ask people if they’re for real.

Now you’re derailing a completely different thread.

You’re muted now, by any means.

This. 100%.
I’ve had stalkers, harassers, with really horrible intentions.
I got stalked by my ex, for example - so I hide my profile.

I wish it was easier for people to see how to ignore people even with hidden profiles tho, as I too had to figure it out on my own to prevent some seriously horrible people from showing up for me.

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Yes of course - but it doesn’t happen a lot. If someone is regularly having emergencies during planned 40 minute sessions, then they probably aren’t emergencies. They should be encouraged to look at what they can do to minimise interruptions, not pandered to at the expense of everyone else.

Not going to argue this. It is true that the reason we can’t have a pause button is because it would turn into a way to frustrate and bore other players because of one person’s bad organisational skills.

But how often do these happen, really? If your cats break stuff a lot, don’t put breakable things where the cats can push them around. If your neighbour is a habitual fire starter, report him to the police. If either is a freak accident - they are freak accidents! Don’t plan your life around the possibility that 1% of things you do will be interrupted. Optimise the 99% of things you do and soak up the times when stuff doesn’t work out.

This is unfortunate but again how often does this coincide with your 40 minute keys, and is it really going to resolve in 5-10 mins?


But I don’t think anyone’s saying you should be expected to have absolute rigid control of literally every possible disturbing factor - but you should have control of most of them. They shouldn’t be happening all the time.

What we don’t want is people planning on there being a disturbing factor, but it “doesn’t matter” because “you can just pause”. It’s not about pausing the game, it’s about thinking you can pause other humans. They may be fully expecting to time the key, and immediately step away from their computer - but someone puts it on pause and now they end up stretched for time, or worst case leaving before the end and killing the whole run. If we didn’t ask up front, we don’t know that the time extension works for everyone present.

This thread was started in the context of being an adult with adult responsibilities, so let us assume that people are capable of exercising some autonomy and fixing the problems with their living environment so’s to minimise interruptions and not get in the way of other people’s game experience.

there is also no reason we would have to share detailed information of our profile, i personally also keep it private :slight_smile:

I’m not denying anything, and saying “Majority says this” is not a proof of anything, nor does it contribute to the discussion.
People are ignoring obvious things and needs safety nets, I’ve said - yeah, make them more obvious for them, sure.
But - Do not sit around calling people Scammers, thats toxic on your part.
That’s just a fact.
You continue to converse with me - and I am asking if you’re “for real” because you continue to scream about something irrelevant.
You’re blaming the people putting up orders - and you’re blaming me for derailing; while you were the one who started this.

I’ve already instructed you on how to put me on ignore. <3
Have a lovely one!

Thanks, I have them ignored now.

It’s a sad situation, because I actually agreed with their point of view. However they were unable to see another perfectly valid view point. And over the course of 5 days kept resurrecting the thread trying to drive home the same point (which I agreed with), effectively calling me crazy for even considering something else.

That is not how a debate works.

Then they followed me here.

CAn’t be dealing with crazy.

Nothing against keeping it private. I would keep mine private as well if it were not for Rio.

However, by putting it private it stopped you from easily ignoring them by clicking their profile. I would never think to look through my own options to ignore someone else. Bad forum design really.

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All you’re saying is ignoring my one true point, or missing it - At this point I am not sure since it’s fully possible to miss discussion-points I have made earlier as they aren’t always in the quote tree:
The group decides on wheter to pause or not.
If people don’t want to pause: Continue, Leave, Kick. Same options as today! :frog:

So:
A group decides on if a pause happens or not.
This, like everything else in the entire universe, can be abused by bad people.
Good people would like this feature, because on rare occasions - emergencies happen.

Its not a “1 person ruin it for the rest” deal.
It’s a group thing.

Yeah, but ignoring someone shouldn’t be that hard if someone truly wishes to ignore another person.
The fact that I had to write a small “guide” with multiple steps to guide Billy to where to ignore me is just poor design.
Being hidden should not equate to being harder-to-ignore.
Plenty of terrible people hide, too, and I would prefer if it was easy to block an harasser.

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sometimes you need to put people on pause if you feel they are too much, there is a time limit on the ignore aswell you can use, and there is nothing preventing them still becoming friends later on :slight_smile:

1; I didn’t follow you here?
You’re not my guiding star. It’s a topic I wished to engage with

The heck? XD

2: Your point continued to call people names and blaming others, I disagreed with that.
You couldn’t handle that.

That’s not how a debate works either, calling me crazy for pointing that out just


 gosh.

Addition:
Considering Billy continues to call me names because he got offended by me disagreeing with him calling others names
 
 . . .
Yeah


Nah, once a crazy always a crazy. Even if they learn to keep it undercontrol in the future :smiley:

All my ignores get marked on Forever :smiley:

i sometimes put forever aswell and happen become friends with the person after year or so :joy:

such is life :joy:

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Sometimes people grow as people! Learn things, experience, generally get more mature in the sense of ability to grasp reality.
I’ve become friends with previous bad people too because they’ve changed, it’s 100% a life journey and up to the person.

This entire thing has spun way off topic tho, so I am going to add my small 1-cent pointer again to roll it back:


Pause button - Optional:
All vote to pause dungeon or not, if emergency happens (Which you can’t plan ahead for, stuff happens, life happens, we never know everything all the time and if we did, we’d be much wiser as a race)
If all vote yes - it’s paused, and you can continue whenever you unpause.
If people vote no - it continues like today, nothing is changed.

People can choose to leave the key
People can choose to go afk
People can ignore/kick people
Nothing is changed besides the addition of a group-vote pause.

People can already plan ahead for what to do in a dungeon with MDT, very much detailed - at that.
It does not give people an edge either, since it’s still the same timer for everyone.
CDs / Debuffs etc also get paused, nothing is gained from pausing, besides an emergency break.

Planning being the only benifit “abusable” part of it, which most people do ahead of dungeon anyway, is something I personally view as a very small abuse-thing that doesn’t really give anyone much in the bigger picture.

Nobody can force anyone to pause, nobody can force anyone to stay, nobody can force anyone to leave (besides the things we already have, such as /kick etc)

That’s my thinking of the addition of a pause button, what it could bring, and how it could be abused.

Hope this post makes sense and somewhat summarises my own point of why a pause button could be a good thing.
Life happens. :teddy_bear:

Seriously. How often do you have to leave your computer?

If it happens once in a while, deal with and yeah, that run got ruined. Move on. It’s a game. If it’s often you probably should accept you can’t commit to Mythic+. World isn’t ending, I can confirm it as I am not doing group content at this point in time for that reason. Maybe I can do it again in s couple of years. Meanwhile I prioritize differently.

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Someone says “brb 5 min” and pops up a vote. Everyone else says no. They afk anyway because they know that you can and will start another vote to pause with a 4 player majority.

You cannot vote no because then you knowingly brick the key. Which means there is no vote, there’s just the ability to put 4 other players on hold at any time for any reason. It will become a source of annoyance and frustration as every run gets interrupted by things that people have miraculously managed to plan around until the moment this feature was available, then suddenly couldn’t.

Having cut my teeth in vanilla dungeons, it was always frustrating to spend literally half an hour in /lfg, FINALLY get everyone to the entrance, and after the first boss someone comes out with “oops, dinner, brb” like they couldn’t possibly have foreseen that and waited to do a dungeon at a better time.

Seriously.
if that one time something happened, and you had the option to pause instead of have the entire run ruined, that would be SO HORRIBLE!

World isn’t ending because you can pause that one time either.
Once in five years, even.

I haven’t had to do this more than once in the past five years, and I used to boost people.
That doesn’t change the fact that a pause button could be handy for those freak-emergency times.