The short answer is; your ilvl reward and amount of options in the vault only can go up, never down.
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Reading ops posts is breaking my brain. He is being giving extra gear by doing those +3 runs. Gear he wouldnt have gotten before. And somehow thinks hes being punished
not rly cause i grind the 3 options out. lol ironically if a Systems Doing something that makes players feel like its no longer worthwhile or feasible to help others.
its Not my problem at all.
i think he ment on the new system hes Lost incentivization to help his friends… i think the wording on his post is poor.
the vault is undoubtably a Better system then what we had in BFA on a progressive level. however the time investment to do ur own Progression is no far Longer then previously…
which means aye for many they no longer have time to concentrate on maximising their own progression and playing with friends.
I just do one m+ per week to be done with it
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Then why do you mention it’s a problem? Also haven’t heard of anyone seeing the “helping” part as a problem. If you would’ve helped people in BfA, and you help them in SL, there’s literally 0 difference. If you care so much about your 3rd slot, then use that time to run higher keys instead. Again, if you spend your time the same as in BfA, you still get the same rewards from your vault. In fact, you only need to do 4 keys for your second reward and you’re already ahead of BfA.
i dont think ur following what i stated i never said it was a Problem. i said it Decentivizes the idea of helping others due to the time required to maximise your own rewards.
in BFA i did 1 +15 run, then Whatever it no longer mattered to my Weekly progression.
in SL I have to first progress my key as high as i can, then do 10 Additional Runs Equal to that maximum key im capable of. this includes failures and more.
So if i do 10x +8s.
Then i reach a +10, i gotta replace 3 rewards with +10, so now im going to do another 10x +10s.
but then i reach +12
i now need to do another 10x +12s.
thats 30 runs of M+ to maximise the ilevel achievable in that week. as i have to multiply Every M+ Gain i make x 10.
so no i wont be helping others. because im too busy grinding against my own rewards unlike BFA where 1 x +15 even failed and ur M+ Weekly no longer mattered.
your doing nothing but harming ur own weekly Odds if u manage a +11 and Dont follow that +11 up with another 9 +11s.
Sure once u can do 10x +14s Weekly, u’re fine to help others and the grind halts because the progression ends, regardless to what key u do over +14 its no longer a ilevel gain.
but for the Majority of the playerbase who are still grinding against keys. we’re effectively having to do 10 Runs everytime we reach a New level.
I dont know. 223 is not that much better than 220. I also get 223, 220 and 220 tomorrow. Totally fine. And i have not yet picked my 223 options from the vault. I have 3 out of 4 vaults picked my 2nd or 3rd option 
In a Pug world where its Mostly ilevel driven ofcourse its a big difference in the grand schemes of things.
Most players will invite a 223 ilevel player over a 220 its enough difference to increase the likelyhood ur invited to the group regardless of the actual DPS Gain it achieves.
Every slot u dont get at a 226 ilevel is a Slot u have to regrind.
I think it is more rio-driven than ilvl. i would pick anytime the player with experience over someone without. But sure, the pugworld has weird rules. I prefer good gear over slightly higher gear which are actually bad pieces and a downgrade.
What?
Ok, you do 5x +10 on Wednesday. Then you go on to do nothing the rest of the week. You will get 2 options from +10 loot. No third option because you only did 5 dungeons, 10 dungeons is minimum to unlock the 3rd option slot.
If you do 5x +2 on Friday that same week, you will still get 2 options from +10, and 1 extra option from +2.
It takes up to 10 of your highest keys completed (including untimed), and counts based on those. If you unlock all 3 options by doing 10 dungeons minimum, your rewards are from your 1st best, 4th best, and 10th best.
If you do 10x +5’s and 3x +2’s, those +2’s do nothing to your Great Vault. If you were not going to do 10x +5 anyway, you’re complaining about nothing. The original gear rewards you would’ve gotten no matter what, do not change by doing lower keys on top of that.
The only people who need to becareful are those hovering between awkward key numbers or only do a few spread out semi-high keys.
Like if you do a 10-9-8-7. Might then be worth to crank out an extra +9 or two just to make it look more like 10-9-9-9-8-7. Only 2 dungeons more, boom, options are now +10 and +9 in stead of +10 and +7.
I agree, it’s a stupid system. But no, you aren’t losing anything by helping.
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