I still prefer rolling than see the same item going to another person at random and not being able to pass it due to ilvl.
At least now the honest ones might pass the items.
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Wah wah wah wah, i donât get everything on a plate even though the game would be pretty boring if that actually happened.
No doubt OP would then be posting about how easy everything is, and how thereâs no challenge to the game for the money heâs paying, so heâs still going to rage-quit.
Honestly, you flippinâ Care Bears are just boring now. If youâre going to go then just go, and stop boring the monkey out of us with your entitled rubbish.
TLDR: Nobody cares. No, really. We donât.
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Youâll be back. They always come back.
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If you say so they listen 200% more to player feedback theb SL tbh if you dont see that you need glasses
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I guess I need glasses
There is people who go to LFR just to get transmorg, Itâs a massive part of the game and itâs good to have a set thatâs from the latest patch. They have every right to the loot as someone who wants it for gear.
Everyone plays the game for different reasons. I personally care more about collecting stuff than gaining 20 dps from a pair of boots.
I agree with you in a guild run but not stuff you sign up for.
The bad apples are the ones who need on stuff just to be mean.
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I fully simpathise, the group loot disaster is yet to unfold in full.
All of the haters of Personal loot, who claim Group loot its âthe same thingâ are clearly misinformed and keep spreading this misinformation.
The people who roll on everything for vendorspec or 2 bows dropping for no hunters in 5 mans group is exactly what this poorly thought trough change will bring.
âBut mah choiceâ carebears should realise there is no choice given here.
What we need to avoid toxicity, unrewarding gameplay and armour stacking:
PuG content: Heroic and Normal raids, 5 man m+, LfD, LfR = personal loot.
Guild content: Mythic raids and 100% same guild members Heroic raid = choice between Personal, Master and Group loot.
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Group loot in LFR is a mistake. Itâs removed the incentive to bring a toon able to boost the group because anyone in actual need of an item (low ilvl main spec), will have priority over those who doesnât.
So if going there to collect transmogs, youâll benefit from bringing a toon who needs the item.
I left my HC and M+ geared main out, and have in the last few weeks had up to 8 of same class run LFR to complete my set!
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imagine if blizzardâs refund policy was like star citizen where they torch your account after the refund 
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Itâs definitely a subject for discussion. Blizzard has said themselves that they would like feedback on the loot rules. I know they prioritise Mainspec over offspec. I was under the assumption they would prioritise a low ilvl over a high ilvl.
I just feel Need before Greed. Thatâs what I used to roll back in Vanilla. And personally I believe a gear upgrade is more worthy of a need than a vanity upgrade (and I like transmog as well)
Just imagine how bad it feels when youâre doing everything you can to get that extra ilvl to start running keys or getting into a raid group, and some 304 comes in a sweeps up the cloak because âlol transmogsâ. Iâll tell you from experience, it feels pretty rubbish. And I have seen it turn LFR pretty toxic as well.
But on the other hand, without the 304s in the raid, it will be a lot tougher.
But as I pointed out. These mogs are much easier to farm once the expansion is over, and you can go back and solo the LFRs.
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I donât think people should have to wait 2 years to collect a transmorg they like because a stranger wants gear thatâs pretty much on par with world quest gear. I apply the logic to myself when it happens to me. Everyone knows how it feels to lose a roll. itâs not unique to certain people. We have different attitudes to it. I donât feel like loot ever belongs to me. If someone has their own personal wants over a piece of loot that isnât just to be mean then who am I to decide if itâs wrong for them to have it? Unless itâs harder content in a guild team.
Someone paying ÂŁ10 a month and ÂŁ50 to access the expansions sets and transmorg has to wait until the expansion theyâve spend ÂŁ100s on before they can get something they paid for? Sounds a bit wrong if you ask me. So someone can have a gear upgrade that can be replaced by âkill 5 piratesâ quest.
Fair point. But thatâs not the case in Season 4 of Shadowlands, with the expansion 4 days away (this happened to me last week, whilst gearing my new hunter). The world content ilvl is much much lower. And even then, someone might be rushing through LFR to gear up for raiding and keys, and might not have time or the desire to do the world content.
Donât get me wrong. I love transmog as well. I just farmed enough 15 keys to complete my Mythic set for my priest (got the last bit in the vault this week), it was a personal mission to not have to go back and do it.
But I kinda just feel that Gear Progress should get priority over Vanity progress. And Iâve seen both sides arguing over it (quite passionately aswell) in LFR groups.
Iâm not saying Iâm right, and Iâm definitely not saying youâre wrong. But there are 2 sides of the story here. And itâs for Blizzard to either set the rules or find a compromise for it.
Personally, Iâd love a system which allowed me to passively collect the Mogs as I work through the raid and gear up separately. At the current loot drop rates, itâs near impossible to complete a set whilst the raid is current (unless you hardcore raid).
Unless you tell me exactly what system is this you have nothing. Because as I see it, group loot and personal loot cannot coexist. Itâs one or the other.
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you give the ppl who want personal loot their personal loot and then ppl who want grp loot can share their Shizzle? it can coexist just not with that attitude
Itâs not a mistake the mistake is making it compulsory. Give us personal loot or group loot
Iâm BEYOND pleased that people with your kind of mentality are quiting this game. You did a great job, deciding you gonna leave Azeroth once and for all. One less casual.
BTW you werenât with Wow since 2005 as stated, but still donât let the doors hit ya on your way out!
What a lovely day this has become! <3
Also, you do realise that if you leave now and skip timegated content in this xpac, you just gona come back and rant about it in a couple of years. So you arenât realy doing yourself a favor⊠<3 Thatâs just dumb dumb thinking.
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Except mythic raid group loot is mistake.
All people just need on what they can 
You cant even gather mog set.
Some people also leave without rolling so it stuck for 5 min. May be you get item on mail if you win roll but not sure.
Its total mess - people are not civilize like in classic where they controlled group loot byself. If you ninja then you have your server reputation - now a days âbye bye I WILL ROLL NEED IF I CANâ
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Yeah but we all know how that works, right?
We would like your feedback about Mythic raids opening as the same as HC 
because weâre going ahead whether you like it or not.
We would like your feedback about Domination Gear because we already decided to do it.
We would like feedback about Conduits and Covenants because they have already been created and we will implement them anyway.
We would like your feedback about loot rules because we already have released the group loot only and youâre going to like it, no matter what.
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This season,i did 90 upper kara runs for trinket,never got it.
At one point i wasnât doing it for the trinket anymore,i wanted to see how many runs it takesâŠ
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does it mean there was 1 proof that they do it?
people can write feedback right away on toilet paper⊠the right place for it.