Naxxramas Achievement Rewards to Remain Available Throughout Wrath Classic

Its funny you say that … because thats literally what they are doing for ulduar … and both CE and AotC are the biggest cancer ever possible that should burn and stay in retail garbage …

Ahead of the Curve: Yogg-Saron Defeat Yogg-Saron in Ulduar on 10 or 25-Player Pre-Nerf difficulty, before the release of the next raid tier.
Cutting Edge: Ulduar Defeat every hard-mode boss in Ulduar on 10 or 25-Player Pre-Nerf difficulty, before the release of the next raid tier.

What´s the problem with those two? You literally get them for completing the raid on normal mode as far as i can see? Apart from the Hardmode one ofc^^

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So what? There’s always that guy that messes up and dies every raid. That’s actually the reason my old guild fell apart. After 12 weeks of the same clown dying in Naxx to the same mechanics everyone had enough and /gquit.

Poor Guild management. Imagine taking such a guy to an immortal run more than two times.

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This achievements is cancer again, i never died in Naxx by myself, i don’t pay 13€ per months and get less content because i’m nerf by others while i play good.

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Yes. That’s what we all said but they refused to do anything about it because the guy was an officer and friends with the gm :clown_face:. Now they can play together in empty guild.

Booo!
Bad change, stupid idea!
Just remove title instead

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Thats how team-based achivements and successes work like, DjChimpzor.

Both MMOs and (specially) raiding are two team based activities, as you alone wouldn’t be able to kill one single boss in a current raid. You need others, and its within that context you find this achivement and reward.

Its not about how strong the chain is, but how strong the weakest link is. Welcome to team based activities!

Mbappe did 4 goals vs Argentina, should he apply for a gold medal since “his team made him lose”?
Should I get a victory in Arena if Im not the first to die - even when my team loses -since “its my partners fault that he died and we lost, not mine”?

You really should save that 13€ and play single player games, would be a win for both you and and the people having to read your stupid posts.

If you are as spotless as you claim, why do you play with idiots who cant stay alive? Why arent better guilds trying to headhunt you and why arent you joining them? Why arent you finding yourself in better contexts after 4-5 months and like 20 resets?

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What a toxic nerd.

Thanks for breaking down the narrative of an MMORPG/replying for me @Scarekraww - some ppl just dont understand.

Don’t get me wrong, everybody should be able to play the game when and for how long he/she wants, but a MMORPG lives from ppl continuosly playing, not from ppl who play a few hours on the weekend.

Honestly, one scheme that may fit all would be: give the ppl who clear the content on highest difficutly / accomplish the achievs when they are current a special reward (mount skin) for their effort (being removed when the next content arrives), but keep the model itself (in another color) in the game (for ppl who play at a later time or do not manage to achieve it).
Plus, do not let those special skins count to the total mount number (so that the collector playing boysis and girlis do not cry).

In this scenario the guy who accomplished the thing back then cant complain, neither can the guy who just loves the model or the collector guy. Its basically the same thing as with retail gladiator elite set and M+ mounts. Idk why it is so hard and think one second as game dev when you essentially bring 100 changes to classic anyway.

Thats essentially neither the fault from the guy failing (although if you want to get this achiev you just have to bench smb if he fails that often) nor the other people, but from the game devs who did not clarify how the naxx meta achievs would be handled AT the beginning of WotLK DESPITE ppl where asking more than once :slight_smile:

Nothing learned in 15 years.

How is it not the fault of the guy failing? Besides the guild leadership being sht ofc^^

Toxic in what way? Nerd in what way?
Because it questions YOU as a factor instead of everything around you?
Amazing how far some players go to protect their ego.

Im sorry you dont have a Immortal yet, but it’s not my fault you chose to put ur trust (12 weeks from what I read) into something that now doesn’t even exist. Some people need to burn their hand 1 time to learn the stowe is hot, others 12 apperently.

And your taunting the GM because his guild has disbanded, but at the same time you didnt get Immortal. Hardly a win/win, more like a loss/loss.

I’m stating the principles of team based games/sports. It’s as easy as that. And when you know it you can either:

  • Stay and try to change the environment you are in (often hard).
  • Move on to environments that fit you and your goals better (if you are able/allowed to)

Classic has turned into some ego preserving reality escape for lonely middle aged men.
“How hard can it be, its only 2 buttons” was the thought by many initialy in Classic, everybody was going to be the new Maitoz.
Then reality hits, and all of a sudden some people apperently press those 2 buttons better, and it wasnt just about easy rotations and no mechanics.

Instead of looking in the mirror, people started to point fingers around them. It was Blizzards fault, GMs fault, guilds fault, gears fault, realms fault, etc, everybodys fault but their own abilities.

Thats toxic and gets people nowhere, not pointing out the obvious. The price is your own ego.

Losers always whine about their best …

this seems cool

If you fail it is your fault. If you keep failing on the same stuff over and over it is no other than your own fault.

I think he was refering to the very relevant and waranted namecalling of the Dj. Some people havent read enough of his posts to know why it is relevant.

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Looking forward to seeing people solo some of these achievements in ICC gear. They should have made it ilvl limited at least.

Not going to happen. This is not retail where the powercreep is so huge between tiers that it might has well have been a completly different expansion. And the selfhealing is not good enough this expansion.

(you do know that pala could solo naxx at the end of wotlk right ? )

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If you think I’m gonna read your autistic ravings think again.

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