There is no point in what you are saying. You don’t understand how the math works.
The PROBLEM is that you feel like you are being robbed, but the truth is that you are not. That’s the point of personal loot. It cheats you into thinking that you have higher chance to get items but that is simply not true.
The downside is that for some people it’s the opposite. They feel like it’s not worth doing bosses because they never see “a chance to win loot with rolls”.
The truth is that your chance to get loot doesn’t chance at all with personal/group loot, only the feeling you get.
Idk man, it doesn’t matter for me either way. I never said that either of the loot systems are better or worse. I really don’t have any personal opinion on the matter.
My only point is that the chance to get loot is the same even if everyone is against you rolling for their friends - they would do the same with personal loot, in that case it’s just hidden from you.
edit: btw there are a lot good reasons to prefer personal loot. Say for example if you are hunting certain transmog from LFR people might complain that you roll need for it, but with personal loot what you would do is to leave the loot on the corpse and postmaster sends it to you later so no one sees that you got it.
edit2: oh btw in the scenarion in the edit YOU would actually prefer having group loot, because it would pressure the other guy who “only” needs it for cosmetic reasons to pass the item for you, increasing your chance to get the loot.
Not at all i prefer ignorance is bliss, i get what i get in my inventory and don’t care for what others get.
I just don’t want to popping up on my screen, attempting to win it and watch someone who doesn’t need it trade it to a friend or use it for cosmetic value.
Sure, that’s fair opinion to have and you share it with many people, but the opposite is true to some people too. From their perspective if someone else gets loot from the boss and they didn’t, they feel like they didn’t even chance to roll on the item.
I’m sure there are a lot pros and cons against/for either system, but as I said, it doesn’t really matter to me.
Afaik, stuff can now also drop that no one can use, like a bow, even though you don’t have a hunter in the raid.
Also, for me it’s also psychological. Before with personal loot if someone got an item I wanted, oh well, it happens, nothing I can do. Now though, someone can intentionally need an item they don’t even really need just to DE it, or for lulz. Basically, now people have more chance to be @$*holes. For organized groups, need/greed is better but for people who pug (like myself), personal loot was much better.
I don’t see any difference between the looting systems. Personal loot is forced hidden need. I can pass on items now with group loot.
With personal loot if an items drop which is not an upgrade and I don’t trade it that can be considered ninja looting too.
As I said I like group loot because I have the option to pass on items
I really don’t mind not getting loot some weeks, sometimes loot for me just doesn’t drop or I have better. What really is bad with the system is people in much better gear with much higher item levels rolling need for 1 of 4 reasons:
For transmog
To disenchant
To give to a friend
Because they don’t think anyone else deserves the loot
I spoke to a mage a few days ago in LFR who won an item when they had a much high item level equipped. I wasn’t salty, just genuinely wondered why they needed the item. They told me quite simply it was to disenchant, they can need on it, so why shouldn’t they?
It’s encouraging poor community behaviour and making a game and environment that should be about a group effort and reward into every man for himself.