Neltharus - Mechanics question

Hey all,

Back to Wow a week after a 2 year break! Currently pugging 15s as heal. Just had a few questions about mechanics in Neltharus:

For boss #4, Warlord Sargha, what is standard for groups re who digs the items out of the gold and use to break Magma Shield - do all roles do this, including healer? Does the shield need 5 attacks to break it, or fewer? I only ask as I have been doing it the last few runs, but the AoE dmg the group takes during Magma Shield seems crazy high, not to mention dodging swirlies, so it feels there’s already a lot to be worrying about in this phase. And it’s only Fortified this week…(!)

Also, can you stack these weapons, or does taking a second replace the first? If they are stackable, should I take multiple? (as it seems there isn’t a huge amount of healing to be done in the first 20s of the fight)

On a related point, is there a standard for who should be pulling the chains en route to boss 2… should I do this automatically as healer, or leave to a DPS?

Thanks in advance for any help!

usually everyone loots one, and if you get the one with charge if you dont feel comfortable using it loot another one. Tyrannical weeks its better to have 1-2 decurses. Loot 2 weapons decurse, then 10sec later 2 other players loot 2 weapons decurse. (if you have 2x obviously, saves a lot of healing needed from dot). You could also use more than one if you pick up extra i think it still works, they just fixed it to not give you extra debuff stacks.

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2 attacks nearly break it and it requires a tad bit of damage. 3 attacks completely break it. If you have a decurse in the group (or other immunities such as cloak and bubble) you can break the shield the moment it appears as people can pick the items up prematurely (care for cannonball item unless you want to face an untimely end if not aimed properly)

Do you mean the burning chains during trash? In that case pretty sure everybody does it since the chains stack and obliterate every mob in existence.

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Thanks both!

I’m not sure what they are called (don’t seem to be mentioned in the Wowhead guide) but between bosses 1 and 2 there are various chains someone can pull out and the tank walks mobs through them.

By this do you mean two people can pull the same chain i.e. both players 1 and 2 click and pull chain A? Or player 1 pulls chain A, tank walks mobs through them, player 2 pulls chain B, tank then walks the mob through these?

If you search online that are routes that you play giga packs at every chain. Everyone should do it and usually 3-4 per chain

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People get a debuff that prevents them from repeatedly using the chains. Everyone should use, but ideally there should be some organization to it. AFAIK, 3 chains will kill Tyrannical trash while it will take 4 on Fortified. A strat might be that tank and healer use chains on a small pull and DPS use them on a large one, while tank/healer have their hands full keeping people alive.

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Then those are the burning chains. Everyone can click them (they also give you a debuff after you clicked it that prevents you from taking another one for some time). Anyone can run them through the mobs as its AoE.

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Thanks all, makes sense! Will try next time

The joys of pugging xD

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