Dh was so op and strong that i had to leave my paladin after 6 years of playing with it and started a dh and i can say
paladin was batman (after rework and before it in pvp and pve )
and DH is and was (superman in pvp and pve)
everytime that they nerfed paladin i played something else but after a while i came back on my pala but this time paladin is so bad that i really cant play with it at all
. gap is very big i agree with you
Unfair to compare those 2 tbh but i get what you mean but thats just a basic stand there and do dps not everything else inculded.
Started to play DH this season. If you think they press 4 btns, youāve never logged on a DH after Legion/BFA i suppose? Sure it can do some aoe by randomly pressing btns but to actually make use of its full potential you have to:
- Properly manage your movement.
- Plan around Fel Barrage and pool resources, including lesser CDs.
- Correctly sync 5-sec dmg windows with burst (retreat + fel rush after immo + any short CD burst).
- Watch out for immo ticks and plan around having inertia buff when itās about to explode.
Itās a lot of nuance and planning/resource management to master and it sure is not a 4-button spec lmao. It just does dps when you do random stuff due to overtuning.
Was playing boomie before and it actually has to only play around starlord with cancelaura macro and resource management while DH has so much more to optimize. It kinda is similar to playing around Tyrant in demo but wayy more often Tyrant (and shorter also, so if you lose your inertia window - youāre screwed).
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Between catalyst and the season token for 2k / heroic clear / 1600 PvP you get 2 set just for existing this season.
Not many people have 2k, or a HC clear in the first month, nevermind the first week. A lot of the player base never get these things.
So I think 2 set in a week isnāt bad going.
Back on topic: Iām not sure why this actually matters, BM can be wrecked in PvP by any class once itās pathetic defensives are spent, and in PvE it doesnāt actually matter, if a class does more damage the net result for your raid isā¦ the boss dies faster, how terrible.
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People stating BM is using more are just noobs. Tell me the buttons you press without any CDs please.
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For lack of trying or caring, mostly, but if you want your 2set itās very available by this point and with second catalyst charge next week it will genuinely be available by purely existing.
or lack of skills
lets not pretend that any player that is even close to average was doing like 16-17 last week.
i see majority of people in lfg below 1k score atm
Because thereās only 5 spots in a dungeon group and 20~ in a raid. People want to feel competitive with their peers and relevant / useful for the content the game provides, especially the challenging stuff.
I will be proven right after wfr is over. Tuning pass will be marvelous
Worth pointing out bliz have in the past been willing to bring bad specs up while RWF is ongoing because itās less likely rock the boat compared to nerfs. The fact theyāve done nothing this tier kinda just feels like neglect.
Bring back staggered raid release so we get heroic, post heroic tuning, then mythic.
Frostboltā¦ frostboltā¦ Frostboltā¦ Frostboltā¦. Frostboltā¦. Glacial spike ā¦. Flurry ā¦ Frostboltā¦ Frostboltā¦ Frostboltā¦
Hunter itās not about those three fracking buttons everybody keep complaining about ffs.
BM hunter is very tactical if you want to do damage. Keeping tracks of 8s barbed shot and maintain 3 stacks at all time, while maintaining a 5s pet frenzy using multishot, and dosing the right amount of cobra shot and kill commandā¦ as well as using the right cd at the right moment.
Edit: oh and while you keep tracking of 2 short cdā¦ you have to keep moving from crap.
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And in previous season, when BM was useless, we struggled to get our spots, itās only fair that sometimes, the non rogues, mages etc get to play the game.
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Youāre currently so far ahead you could be nerfed by 30% and still be one of the best specs in the game. Its not a case of wanting the spec to be bad, itās a case of wanting balance to be within a reasonable range. BM can still be top at the end for all I care, just not this far ahead and with other bad specs not this far behind the pack.
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You are literally playing Frost mage a spec that is as hard and as many buttons as BM as someone who have a frost mage and a BM hunter i know this very well.
Frost mage is at the exact same level as BM so remember what you want that time when Frost mage is strong you should ask for nerfs yourself.
BMs core rotation is 5buttons (the average dps rotation in wow for ALL SPECS is 5-6)you then have talents that makes it 6 or 7 buttons you have a maintenance buff you need to control. And this is for dungeons.
Bestial Wrath looks like a cooldown but the reality is that it has around 2-10seconds effective downtime and that is an increase from the almost 100% uptime it had last season.
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This is FALSE and you know it i did not think i would see the day when you of all people would be spreading straight up false information that you know is false.
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Yes it is. 4 buttons isnāt 9. If you factor in trinkets that have an on use effect it becomes more.
Saying itās not that far from the truth is disengenuous.
Thatās like someone promising to pay you 100 euros, but then they give you 50 euros and say āitās not far from the truthā. Yes it is! Itās half what you claimed!
Just like 9 is over double of what was claimed. That IS far off.
I donāt care about comparisons, thatās not what I addressed.
I addressed a blatant lie like BM only using 4 buttons.
Nothing else.
No? Because CDs ARE part of rotations. Donāt be daft.
People stating BM uses 4 buttons are the ones who are ājust noobsā.
Or trolls. Take your pick.
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Has it dropped down some? Iāll stand by you could nerf it 20-30% in keys and itād still be good though. The few outliers are just so far ahead, and the few specs trailing behind are just so far behind it kinda warps things.
If itās not that far ahead then apologies, just from running keys this season trying to gear with my guild itās absolutely felt like it. Numbers aside the comment after what you quoted is really the crux of things.
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Frost mage has to press up to 9-10 spells in aoe situation not just 2 like BM hunter does and frost actually have to think pre-emtively to not screw up. I donāt know what this assumption about frost.
Feels like weāve gone back in time with the complaints about DHs again.
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