This class is so stupid my god, like does not cast ANYTHING AT ALL, literally nothing. Does ridiculous amount of damage, insta casts omega damage, only kickable casts are Wrath and Cyclone (the cc that is toxic af, w/o any cd on it) just spam it like a maniac with haste, oh u missed a kick? Precog on top of that. Nerf it, change it don’t care or just let it cast something so i can shut it off, oh yeah the survivability it has OMEGALUL, NICE CLASS DESIGN TOP NOTCH
When they nerf dks again maybe they buff boomy abit more, they always nerf dks.
I don’t get blizz they nerfed us, we most bad specc in solo atm but they nerf us 24/7 still.
we’re complaining about boomies here and you dks had to make it about yourself
Just nerf clone and we are good. Issue is you cannot kill anythibg vs boomer cause a good one just rotatez clones…
It’s close to being ret rework levels.
The single target is very high, the spread pressure is insanely high.
And it has access to currently the best CC in game which can be casted at 1 sec.
The defensives aren’t the best but they are still very strong, and as mentioned above cyclone can just be cycled to prevent kills.
I would argue with cyclone what makes it too strong is High Winds combined with Owlkin Adept makes it more toxic. Fast CC with 30% dmg or healing done for 6 sec after every cyclone is pretty stupid when it dont have a cooldown.
The easy spread and Starfall makes it even stronger than the former king of AoE spread dmg called Affliction Warlocks but now also with an extremely good single target. In BGs/RBGs this would be felt instantly considering everything got a 45 yard range except Cyclone itself.
Removing High Winds and changing Owlkin Adept so it dont reduce Cyclone cast would be ideal and look into how to nerf the AoE dmg combined with the ST without killing the spec.
Arguably one of the best CCs in the game do not need talents to make it even stronger.
this clown complaining the whole f day about his class and tell people “try play dk”
like bro if you cry the whole day about your class than maybe reroll?
At this point they need to destroy clone completely for the Spec, Owlkin adept+ precog is a complete abomination where you simply cant win.
If the dude doing it actually knows what he’s doing you run a significant risk of giving him precog everytime.
The button does too much, both offensively and defensively.
Also their Rot should be looked at closely, moonfire/sunfire damage is completely through the roof.
‘IT’S CLOSE TO BEING’
What’s close to god tier… ermmm I don’t know? Maybe the highest S tier!!!
Atleast try to read mate.
but its not even close? you literally had atleast 2 rets in EVERY single lobby while boomy isnt even the most represented spec at ANY rating.
It and destro are pretty close, it’s a subjective opinion of course not a fact.
The only difference to me is that boomies can die and probably take a bit more skill than ret did.
But I feel, as do many others, that the current iteration of boomy is broken.
It cant be nice being a good, long-term boomkin and getting heat for all the fotms?
thats the difference. If we look at the statistics boomy isnt even close as broken as ret was. Its not even the most broken spec right now according to statistics.
is is a little bit too strong yes.
i could not care less haha
Its just more boomies floating the ladder giving more possible #1 spots when they get nerfed later in the season its easier for me lol
Agree to disagree then, gl with the r1.
The sheer amount of Rot while they are not doing anything is pretty damn insane tbh, I feel like I’m playing an affliction boomy, dude triple dotting the team and jumping around in bear topping the meters is a bit oof.
Yeah I slightly exaggerated that but damn those dots hit way harder than they should.
Also Owlkin Adept + Precog + Clone is just toxic.
in my opinion the ST spec is still stronger and thats what most top boomies play too. Not even playing starfall even though its better this season than last.
Boomkins don’t have high survivability. You sit on them you force them to kite and force them to go bear form and in those forms they deal half the DMG. Also next patch Nature’s Vigil is getting nerfed and that’s like half if not more of Boomkin healing for the AoE builds.
I think the main issue with the AoE build is just the crazy high AP generation - 24 AP per Moonfire, so every 2 Moonfires you can Starfall, Starfall has a 40% chance to give a free Starsurge, which has a chance to give a free Starfall, creating a weird all DMG is instant casts build.
I’d say cut this crazy AP generation from Moonfire and buff say Wrath generation making the AoE playstyle viable but harder cause you’ll actually have to cast a lot.
Also give Boomkins some DMG to their builders, cause outside Incarn where we can’t just Starsurge / Starfall spam the DMG is really hilarious 20-30k DMG for a 2 second cast come on now. Nerf the unhealthy Moonfire / Starfall spam playstyle and make casts actually matter. I think everyone will be happier with that.
Also in Solo Shuffle the AoE build ain’t as OP as ppl are claiming, it works low rating really well where healers suck, but once you hit around 2000 and you actually start getting good healers you find yourself doing double the DMG of everyone, but your actually losing games cause you aint really pressuring anyone. You really need a strong ST class with you for those Starfalls to even matter and make the enemy panic not knowing who to heal.
Boomy sp destru and sub are godtier rn only ppl that play these classes will say no
i wonder what goes on in the heads of boomkin rerollers as they repeatedly press moonfire, starsurge for 5 mins and win every game by doing that. not too much, i suspect.
what a cringe spec to be broken. what is even more cringe is how many people decide to fotm a class that can be played with 3 buttons instead of choosing something fun and engaging
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