If you want execute spells to hit hard, fair enough I can get behind it. However under no circumstance can I get behind Warriors and Hunter being able to use Said Execute spell at above 20% health for full damage in pvp.
There is a reason why Hunters and Warriors are plaguing arena and its because they are the only class that can use execute type ability at any health pool due to the horrendous design of the game.
Survival and Beast Mastery damage Kill Shot damage should be reduced by 20% minimum when used above 20% health.
Execute (none venthyr) should be reduced by 20% when used above 20% health with Condemn being 10%…
Yes do Hunter have great CC, yes but that is there niche, they have control. Now could we say let’s nerf Hunter Control, I.E Increase the cool-down of Trap? Or better yet just outright remove the Feign Death Legendary. yes we could but it would absolutely destroy them. Instead, Hunters should be about synergy, they offer great control and moderate survival against most comps, however they need to bring another DPS or another class which can control equally as well to apply that pressure long game. However as of right now the Hunter class bring across all the amazing tools they should, plus the additional of random outburst of burst damage which is centred around Kill Shot procs. A Hunter having all the control in the world and throwing out 10-15k klll shots is the problem.
Regarding Warriors, Warrior bring Mortal Strike + Stormbolt + Fear + Intervene + Disarm + Rally, they have a great tool kit to offer decent control, counter and pressure against a target. which is should it’s a WARRIOR! however right now Warrior onslaught of damage on top of mobility on top of utility is the reason it’s the most played spec at high rating in 2s and 3s for the past 2 seasons. One of the main reasons is because of Condemn and Execute. Condemn provides nearly 100% up time and allows the warrior to Bypass Armor while normal Execute damage output is absolutely insane. Throwing a fairly random 15-20k execute (40-50% people health) from a proc and luckly crit on top of the dominating performance is what makes warrior too strong.
Now yes, Condemn charge should go. Yes Intervene could probably be looked at. But reality is, Warrior should have all the tools they have but have damage output nerf to balance out the game play style.
Now Warriors and Hunters aren’t the only problem, we all know this. Rets throwing 25k Final Verdicts, Monk and DH burst output due to multiple cool-downs… Shackle… 1 minute Convoke… There are loads of issues… However a nerf to Execute and Kill Shot are simple, won’t heavily change the meta but will simply put them on par with everybody else.
Sure it is, BM was non-existant until they buffed venthyr flayed shot both proc chance and damage. Without flayed shot and kill shot-procs, you wouldnt see a BM or survival in the arena at all.
mh i am not a great bm hunter because never played it but according to the forums every ape can play it.
i tried it with ilvl 220 but with kyrian.
i failed to see the bonkers dmg everyone is talking about.
i lost the dps race with every dh for example.
my guess is that kill shot actually contributes a lot to the bonkers dmg that everyone is talking about. i wasnt able to chunk people constantly and even with perfect traps it took a while till someone died.
yeah dpsing is quite brain dead but you need to be still good at not getting one shot by the many classe out there
They should rework flayer shot more in line with the anima power in torghast where you get a proc when you cast it and when it ends. So a rework to a 10-sec duration dot instead, and give one guaranteed proc when casting it and ending, so only two procs / cast and they are not RNG. This would help out PvE aswell. Feels extremely fun casting two flayed shots during a boss fight and not get a single proc.
Nerfing the proc damage so i can do 2-3k on plate/mail yeeey
Not sure if MS is even an argument, since almost everyone got it in 9.1
Other than that agree with Death Sentence-Charge cuz it is stupid, BUT what you seem to miss is that Venthyr isnt even the best right now but Kyrian with its new leggo execute one-shots.
Regarding damage, Warrior damage isnt even that scary tbh, all classes deal equally stupid amounts of it, problem are stupid one-shots which Venthyr-Arms actually cant do except but Kyrian with new Leggo can.
Just cut ALL damage and healing in PvP by 20% and see how things are.
Its really stupid to complain about 1 class damage when literally everyone deals too much of it to the point that game revolves basically around one-shotting and pve’ing the target down.
