How can you compare mdi that runs 9 to11 keys with 17s like are you for real ? You are being more out of touch with each post you type.
Tbh its easier to bring ones dmg bit lower than to up another 5 bit higher, dont you think?
Also, ppal has curently way too much dmg for tank, both st and aoe , if every tank would be able to do that people will get mad, cuz tank and average DD dps will be so close they will be mad , hence the nerf to ones outliers dmg .
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Whats happening in +17’s has zero impact on you yet you keep commenting on it.
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It does. If title is directly affected by rio rating which for now comes from the highest keystone level than for sure it does. Why would i play a class or even m+ if iam doomed to succed ? I never said i will reach it but this kind of gameplay for sure doesnr encourage people to tank more or play in general.
By this logic dmg on DD shouldnt be adjusted as well since you can complete mythic raid on any char but noone wants to bee seen on the bottom of dps with 30% margin gap. Its like you got the kill then why complain… everyone should get as equal chance as it gets… at least i think its healthier.
its the first stage they will do higher one soon, i ask you to look up facts before posting as you are making yourself look very bad.
You aren’t even close to title range or quality.
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Op is living proof that Mike Tyson was right
I mean like what this has to do with balancing ? That is off topic
Instead of nerfing prot pal just buff all tanks to its level.
Win-win. 
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While that is true, it still influences the top end of the ladder quite a bit.
Nerfing comps or specs hard that carried them to finish the top 1 key, then I might not be possible to dethrone the Nr. 1 spot, no matter how hard they try.
so it is always better to buff other things than nerfing things in the middle of a season, even though it will generally allow to push higher and higher keys.
Imagine complaining when you can respec into one of the best specs and then play with the real tank you complaining about. Any mage and monk would be happy to have your possibilities but you whine. You should main rsham buddy 
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Paladins might have more dmg than say, Protwars and Druids (not sure why thats an issue tbh, it’ll only help everyone in the party/raid), but we’re also much squishier and prone to get oneshot than Protwars and Druids.
I wouldn’t mind a slight dps-nerf if Blizzard buff our survivability at the same time in equal measure.
Sound good?
Thats not how it works. You are talking about the physical part and not magic, which is the other type of dmg. Druid and war can say the same about magic dmg taken which is worse for them than on you since you block magic as well. You cannot buff survivability … if you do that then the dmg you do has to be super nerfed. You cannot have the best dmg, best cc/utility, overall durability and you are nowhere near the one shot territory. Like dk, dh and monk are way behind pala by far. And are worse in every aspect.
Sure, if its grossly OP compared to all other tanks then yes, nerf them. However, nerfing prot palas wont make bdk better afaik.
While that is true i kinda disagree , as this once again catter only to top 0.1% . What about everyone else ?
Untill now there was rather good balance and everybody had quite fair chance to get into keys , now all of sudden everybody demands a ppal, yes u can do lower keys without it, but thats not how things in pugs works .
So now we wont nerf ppal cuz it might affect very top players, while we “force” everybody else to reroll ppal for their chance at semi decent keys in pugs , makes no sense.
Yap, same as DK ( not sure about monks ) there shouldnt be tank that is prone to geting one shot when mising one GCD, and there also shouldnt be a case where one tank feels imortal while other feels like paper .
Also as to dmg , why thats issue when it helps raid ? Well its an issue when u dont have that tank, because as of now, even if ppal is squishier it clearly can live higher keys, and once u can live a key, u dont need to live more , u need to pump more, thata where issue is .
If all tanks can live, but one brings like 20% more dps, we have a clear winner .
And the same issue as we had beffore comes when u buff all tanks, insecure DDs will start to complain, how tanks are too strong etc etc, thats why we had many tank nerfs in past, both in defense and in offense ( like trinkets for example) .
So, do you see issue now ? One is clear outlier , and unless u play that one , then u are loosing .
It wont , but all bdk need is deff buff. If they made BDK stronger defensively ( which is kinda hard to balance with bdk) it wont be meta anyway, ppal will still dominate , because of things i said above. All tanks can live in keys ( not top one for now perhaps but up to like 14-15 for sure) but one tank is doing way more dmg than rest .
U want balance in tank? Buff bdk and brm defense , nerf ppal dmg , and its done.
Before ppal buff/rework there was at least semi decent balance where 3 tanks were spliting top keys, now its just a ppal , nobody else , and its reflecting to lower keys also
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everyone else doesnt need to bother because it does not affect you at all.
I invite whatever tank and non of them is particularly bad.
if i tank on my druid i get instant invite whether prot pala is op or not.
so why it bothers you?
massive nerfs would bother those who play prot and those who push the highest keys.
if you buff others, there is no negative outcome. so what is better?
Ret are called Retpocalypse for a reason. They got heavily boosted/reworked during s1 or s2 in DF.
Tell me again how it doesnt affect me when groups prefer lower gear/rio ppal over anything else.
What key levels u do on your druid where u get insta invites ?
Im not talking above masive nerfs ,im talking above bringing their dmg on par with other tanks . For all i care buff their defensives if they need it as some people claim , but since they are rn pushing highest of keys ,i doubt that .
If u buff all other tanks to ppal level then all tanks will be way too strong, and DDs will cry and cause another mass tank nerf like in past
We are squishier, but tank survivability isn’t what’s holding back high keys. Yes, our damage is kraykray.
Yea, but just like ppal is sqhushier so is BDK ( or more prone to get oneshot , call it how h want ) and monk also .
Meanwhile they dont have DD level dps , so yea , its kinda inbalanced in that regards and thats what im trying to prove
Like im not saying lets gut them, all im saying is bring it a bit into line with others, keep them a bit higher so they remain S tier , just reduce the difference cuz as of now its kinda huge
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