Nerf shadowmeld

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95% of the people would go on them for sure for me i would make an alt too, to play them even when i couldnt leave catform for more than 2 seconds because its just ewww i had a Tauren/troll moggs are looking terrible on them too

your pretty often out of form tbh, especially when you are on a mount, or Chillin

Just because you have your main abilities in cat form doesn’t mean you’re in cat form 24/7 unless you are cossplaying a Furry on Argent Dawn

I think there is no legitimate reason why druids are still limited to races

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Even if Druids had access to every race in the game, I think it’s disingenuous to imply that Night Elf still wouldn’t be the overwhelming pick and the top performer :rofl:

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Shadowmeld being basically mandatory for druids and rogues is just an issue imo.

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I didn’t deny it, the whole gaming scene are Metaslaves, what only plays Mdi Meta already on low m+ key levels xd

but if they deactivate every racial it would be nice to have access to more racials :sweat_smile:

yeah it is

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Thing is, even if Blizzard nerfed the racial and gave feral and rogue compensation everyone would just roll to the next best race.

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So Shadowmeld is an overpeformer…agreed?

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its more likely in the main rotation which is bad game designe when your racial is really often your kill opportunity but it seems like on rogue its even more op because of subterfuge

try to play shadow without being a Voidelf against melees then you see how broken Racials are

Rogue have it easy because they can pick every race they want, druid have only trash Racials left

just make every racial not Usuable in Rated content Problem solved

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They have to nerf shadowmeld even in PvE, thats the funny part. Its grossly overpowered even there.

Just saying, Nelf is played more than Void elf even as SP.

I also wouldnt mind disabling racials, but that doesnt mean certain specs should get it “for free” because they believe they have to use it to be viable.
Thats like saying casters who can be void elf should get the immunity to push back because they feel their spec is “unviable” because of it. Simply because they got used to it.

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Its not the same.
Feral has dots who automatically trigger Combat.
We struggle restealthing even after 6 seconds of not hitting anything.
We are the only stealther who cant remove bleeds or supress them to stealth.
We are also the only stealther who cannot restealth.
This take is super anty- fantasy which is you guys forget is the main thing about MMORPGs PvP flavour.

I really believe that feral will get a restealth the moment SM is removed or nerfed.

Its crazy to think you guys got a problem with ferals wanting to restealth, having in mind by restealth i mean 0.1 combat drop where as a druid you cant even remove your bleeds and do what rogues do with Vanish (pousing combat).

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edited by moderator When we’re at it, why not remove hunter being able to stealth, remove vanish, remove stuns, hell even remove the ability to move.

Dumb ssa.

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Argument is:
There so many abilities that break stealth from DOTs to flare to directly being able to see Stealth with various spells like Divine Shield and also DHs eyes.
That I really do not see the issue with ferals having 1 single, seperated spell to re stealth with.
It goes without saying that they can also remove the Incarnation restealth part.
Again:
Rogues can entirely restealth with Vanish, which grants them an absorb effect, as well they can use Cloak to fully stealth themselves indefinetely.
Hunters can also do this.
Hell even mages can shield themselves into Invis.
What Im not even asking for this, all im asking is - a restealth seperate from Incarn.
Thats all.

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this

meld is fine the way it is for non-stealth classes, since its literally just a skill button

but it should stop giving ferals and rogues restealths, that is just so annoying and broken

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Cloak doesn’t remove bleeds any more.

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I’ve literally got a Night Elf and Night Elf is played like twice as much as Velf in the top 50 :skull:

The 5% damage and healing bonus for Velf is better than the pushback and Nelf is still better. I only have my main as Velf because I think Night Elf is boring.

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Ferals being broken have nothing to do with the fact shadowmeld is giga broken. I mean theyre broken even without it.

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yeah Sp players are weird, have seen also a couple of Pandaren/Goblin Shadow priests, idk if people underrestimate the Passive Pushback immunity or Playing whatever race they want on Na they are all playing Panda for the Panda incap lmao

im pretty sure Blizz designed some classes/ Druid especially in M+ around Shadowmeld, its like saying “they didnt balanced the game around Addons” which isnt True

i think they took it into Account that Rogue/Druid getting a huge benefit out of Shadowmeld but it doesnt change the fact (if it is so) that this is Bad class designe when u designe a class around a Racial, or nerf it because of the racial

why should a 5% Dmg talent what Procs most likely 1x all 40sec/1.20 Minutes be better than a Pushback immunity what makes a 1.5 sec cast a 1.5 sec cast instead of a 1.8/1.9 sec cast

also no channel penalty

Maybe just Maybe, because only shadow and destro benefits from the Voidelf racial while on meld more people benefit + Rdroods, holy priests

if you think the Pushback immunity is bad then idk its just only good for destro/shadow cauz every other class isnt a caster anymore

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Proving the point that Nelf is far superior, even for specs that ‘only benefit’ from a racial that isn’t nelf, yet is still inferior.

Where did I say that? On to ignore you go. Learn to read.

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u said it indirectly

it´s been like this for like 11 years now

kinda funny to me, that this complaint is most likely pointed to feral/rogue at first

instead of Rdroods/Priest aswell when Shadowmeld also works as an pseudo Fade

if someone mention Shadowmeld 99% of the people cry about Feral/Rogue

sometimes i have the feeling that this is a Bias towards a Spec because most of the People also Play with an Rdrood/Holy Priest, and if the Mate have this “spell” it´s fine ofc

People what Plays on the Main Team with an Rdrood Pointing out "Meld Bad remove extra stealth for Feral/Rogue “but keep it as an out of combat spell, so my mate can Drink easily”

i dont point at you with that, i mean this in General when i think about the other Threads

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Feels like you are underestimating how strong nelf is.

I actually dont believe so unless you want to believe ferals are only viable in PvE with shadowmeld? Then it would be wrong.

He did not. He said more SP plays Night elf which is correct. This is not taking account for “other specs”. Only SP.
He also did not say the “pushback immunity” is bad. He said the 5% dmg increase were better according to him.
Noone would deny a “pushback immunity” is good, but the way you argue it feels like you want to highlight it to be way above nelf for SP.

Basically, you take any form of “nerf shadowmeld” as a personal thing since it would nerf your spec?

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how do you come to the Conclussion?

Why should Nelf/panda/goblin on Shadow be better than Voidelf on shadow priest

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=255670/preternatural-calm People also underestimate this talent in a Melee Meta (not this current meta)

i said some classes/specs, what was most likely targeted to Rdrood in m+ :eyes: meld on Boomkin is useless in m+ but it´s really good in m+ for healers

huh? did i? not my intention xd it was just Funny that Nobody Mention the existence of this Talent Since Legion, i dont even think Many Players Know that this talent exist

i dont if u would have read my other post´s

but read the post from other People

Nobody Mention Rdrood, nobody mention Holy Priest

i ask you, do you Think Rake stun is the Only Problem about shadowmeld and that Healer getting a Free drink in Arena AND m+ is fine?

and i couldnt care less about the Removal of Shadowmeld, they would counterbalance it if the nerf is too high

but i rather like i said 3x times, just deactivate racials in Rated content (easiest solution what cost no resources and pve enjoyers can be happy)

no but it makes them 1 tier higher because current m+ meta is Spaming micro cc´s on Adds otherwise your grp is dead

like Kicks, Knocks Stuns, in some situations the Rake stun, (or subterfuge cheap shot spam for rogue) is really good in some pulls/ add packs