Nerf shadowmeld

I know it’s hard being literally the first person saying this but someone has to say it! NERF.

Or, here’s an idea: Whenever Night Elves shadowmeld, make them disappear into the shadows forever, deleting their character. Case closed.

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I’m little jealous of that since i rolled human since meld is so op ( you can meld many casts such as chaos bolt just meld before connect to you and you take no damage ) but whatever.

I’m surprised they’ve allowed shadowmeld to essentially give rogues another reset for so long. Especially when things like aoe spammable garrote exists.

Not sure about you but i have a different understanding of the word “literally”. :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyways, i obviously agree.

It was meant to be sarcastic, but maybe I didn’t make it obvious enough.

In addition to everything else that makes this racial unbelievably overpowered, the game is bugged, which makes a [@focus] macro when he melds, go on your current target, or any target if you were targeting him :blush: amazing

This is a bug regarding stealth in general.

They need to whack more than just shadowmeld…but yeah i feel that

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Melf was best sell point for ferals in wrath.
It was like vanish for them where they were able to enter prown.

Heres my take:
I think Shadowmeld is annoying and overperforms only when it comes to rogues.
What could be done is remove the part where you can projectiles with it remove Silence from Garrote.

Another thing im thinking is that you’re all really overreacting.
Its a racial, and the last thing that i would think about balancing when it comes to the crazy amount of broken spells and mechanics, entire specs and so on is specifically Shadowmeld.
I rather have hunters nerfed.

And druids. And every other class but with druid and rogues it’s the most extreme form of overperformance.

Oh .its so extreme. I get access to stun that i can access regardless.
Its not like taurens dont have an aoe stun too as a form of racial

Remove shadowmelt but give ferals a vanish instead

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You are very quickly becoming the most biased and most defensive player on here.

If Shadowmeld wasn’t an overperfomer for Druids, 45 of the top 50 Ferals wouldn’t be Night Elf, and 35 of the Top 50 Balance Druids wouldn’t be Night Elf.

Worse than Shadowmeld in practical gameplay 99% of the time. Highmountain Tauren has a stun too, people still opt Night Elf. I wonder why, could potentially be that Shadowmeld is offensively and defensively superior than all the other Druid race racials by miles.

Why is it so difficult for you to accept that you may just be playing something overpowered?

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I never said im not biased.
I like Meld.
But not to extreme ends.
Meld is the least of our worries in the current busted meta though lets talk about your comment more:
I can see that avoiding spells with it is really disruptive and that should admitedly be changed and I argee.

As for Ferals- we are lacking. We have no reastealth, in comparison we are the only stealth spec that has no restealth even if we limit it to just armor type.
Restealthing doesnt really give ferals crazy advantage since we dont have a spell that removes dots or something of the sort of Cloak for it to overperform.
Its simple as that.
And i promise you that one day IF* Meld gets removed, ferals will get a restealth anyway and its gonna be the same story.
Shadowmeld doesnt overperform in druids, just in rogues.
Garrote generally overperforms- the spell itself should have its Silence removed, and being able to drop 3 silences (whith the option of them being 2x on the closest target) followed by 3 stuns is crazy.

Bro, generally speaking I want a Blood Elf druid. And i would go blood elf.
Night elves are just the more attractive choice.
I dont wonna be a cow, nor an dad-bod human, nor a dog or anything like that.
People generally like elves, im pretty sure enough people played elves in Classic though Shadowmeld was ultimately garbage.

Why dont u mention also that druid is the most limited to races class ?
As i said- unlock druid for blood elves, ill go blood elf.

Amen, he sees it.

I agree its overpowered in rogues.
And i also agree that u shouldnt be able to immune projectiles with it.
What I dont agree is that it overperforms in druids.

You have the ability to restealth every 2 minutes with Incarn.

Factually incorrect otherwise the vast majority of Druids wouldn’t be Night Elf. Arguing with freely available data which paints a clear and obvious picture and conclusion doesn’t reflect well on you.

Because it’s not really relevant. There are plenty of other races to choose from, so the vast majority choosing Night Elf are playing it for performance reasons. If you had 1 race, your argument would have grounds.

Well, you’re entitled to your wrong opinion that this is another thing that isn’t an overperformer for your overpowered and overperforming spec - but your opinion is contrary to freely available statistics which shows the opposite.

Good day.

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Since Incarn vanish already got mentioned…

Being able to fully Rake stun an additional target on your go is actually an advantage.

Sorry bro but you really are biased and wrong.

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If i play convoke i dont have incarn
If i need to restealth i dont have to waste my biggest CD in comparison to every other stealth class even those of the same armor type.
Its not a true restealth and its not a baseline ability.
How will boomie/resto druids restealth ?

This could easily be disproven.
As the majority of druids were still night elves during classic wow back in the day.
People dont like being a cow.

Data requires context, and we dont know which is the exact reason.
Your guess is just that- a guess.

Thats entirely your view of things.
Ive been very active on reddit, in the class forum and also in the druid Discord group, and race limitations were ALWAYS the main complaint.
Why wouldnt you pick night elf if its the only good looking one and on top of that has a good racial that gives you the ability to restealth as a STEALTH class?

Sorry bro but the CD of my stun is not even that long in context to DR and what it means, plus the simple fact that every class has a stun now, we are not short on stuns, we are just limited by the DR.
And as i said Kul’tiran, tauren, highmountain also have access to stuns infact directly through their racials.
Shadowmeld doesnt perform in druids.

Your ability to shift the goalposts to fit your biased and delusional narrative is impressive.

You said you don’t have the ability to restealth. You do. You’re objectively wrong.

This is like saying Mages don’t have a true immunity because Ice Block isn’t a baseline ability. It’s like saying Mages don’t have an immunity because you need to spec into it. Crazy.

Ok, so prove it? If the performance and overwhelming advantage of Shadowmeld isn’t the reason that 90% of the top 50 Feral Druids are Night Elves, go and prove to me what it is. You said it’s easily disproven, so do it.

https ://imgur.com/a/eALPMJc

Here’s a Feral friend of mine saying he’s Night Elf for Meld. As you can see, even asking him why he’s Nelf in the first place amazed him. Now that is proof.

The context is that it is the top 50 players of the specs. It’s the same logic for talents, you can see what people are playing, and a deviation from that suggests you’re playing at a disadvantage compared to what’s regarded as optimal.

Yeah you definitely fit in with the worldofpvp lot - bunch of 1300 rated delulu’s living in an echo chamber.

So it’s an overperformer compared to the other racials, thanks for the report :slight_smile:

Anyway you’re on ignore now. If you want to provide me with your evidence that ‘easily disproves’ that 90% the top 50 rated Ferals are Night Elf for reasons where Shadowmeld isn’t relevant, feel free to do what a couple of my other fans do and switch character and get my attention.

Something tells me this will be the last I have to read any of your nonsense, though, because you won’t prove a thing. Laters!

Okay Nerf Shadowmeld BUT THEN also Nerf Void elf Passive racial Preternatural Calm

Your spell casts are not delayed by taking damage.

or even better, deactivate all racial passive/active when u enter Rated Arena

Meh, Pounce energy cost was very High 50 energy, and with the feral playstyle in Wotlk not really Needed, maim was way too good in Wotlk, Meld was more of an “i avoid a chaosbolt/frostbolt” spell

not if u had dots on you, it instantly broke same for vanish in Wotlk, vanish/meld wasnt in wotlk as good as in modern wow, meld became more popular in Wod when they removed pounce and backed Stun + more Dmg in stealth into Rake

to be fair, druid also have close to 0 alternatives, druid is really limited to Races

who wanna play a goofy Tauren/Troll or Worgen

Are you going to pretend that if Taurens or Trolls had Shadowmeld and Nelf didn’t that everyone would still be choosing Night Elf?

I also do not buy the ‘wahh the races are ugly’ excuse when you’re not even in normal form the majority of the time.

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Just remove racials or make them a talent and be done with it