Way too broken. I don’t care how “complex” it is. Specc deals WAAAAAY too much damage.
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Any chance you ever make a thread about one of the warlock specs being OP if one of them completely outdamaged you?
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Idk, any chance you stop being omega biased with ret and actually acknowledge it’s giga busted op?
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Even if we were talking about those three days in s1 df, your arguments are so clueless and off base i couldnt possibly agree. Id literally have to deny reality to buy into that, how bad your logic is 
Yeah but i genuinly don’t care if you agree with me or not. You have shown to be of zero knowledge and full bias and you don’t have the experience to back up any of your fried takes.
You’re already bending reality thinking your opinion matters. So do yourself a favor and stop making a fool out of yourself here, ok? Thanks.
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On the one hand we can say , that we have forgotten how to play against survival hunter cause it was a long time a spec with low popularity. However after one month most of us figured out how to deal with them. For example CC , use mobility when “Fury of the Eagle” is cast. Even though I have witnessed myself flopping from 100% to around 50% or 60% Hp within 2 globals . Fyi I am in defensive stance sometimes. It baffles me how a plate user or a lock which is high armor target receives these insane amounts of dmg. I agree with the OP , something must be looked at it.
What about mm i think it needs nerfing 2
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One at a time. MM has it’s own threads.
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But in the end a guy with r1 experience who wasnt even trying to defend paladins ended up literally quoting me — pointing out the awful winrate and your total incompetence thanks to your stunning stubbornness, and you just swallowed it too scared to argue with “daddy” 
So yes its crystal clear once again our boy got his feelings hurt, today it happened to be a surv
Nah, Sv does allot of damage and you probably ran into 1 so far. Compared to a Ret paladin they do nothing and yes, they are far more complex then most of the specs we have. High difficulty, high reward for sv hunters. If you mess up as an sv, you’re death in 2 globals.
You should, it’s better than the easy specs like Ret, BM and havoc doing a ton of damage. At least difficult specs have earned it.
You should play one and see how well it goes for you.
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???
Who the hell are you talking about?
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I think he means bigmex
Ps ur hyped for infinity castle part 1?
You can just CC him to crap since you locks have so much of it.
Just ignore him and Yulila.
Your life will be better you will gain +15 sanity.
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Yulila tje 1600 ret ? No offense here
Oh dw, i don’t take anything he says seriously. I am just confused about some alleged R1 player agreeing with him and pointing out something about my winrate because i don’t remember anything.
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Just remember the time when (we affli) had Deathbolt spell. All our dots full dmg in a 3 sec undispellable dot 
They didnt do anything with it for weeks. (Maybe months)
Now (we survival hunters) got a nerf on one spell after 2 weeks, -20% still viable and noone is crying.
To build up big shots still needs a lot of mistake from the enemy. (Cc on open on heal, wyvern, explosive shot (and you still in melee range) flanking strike and Coorsinated, (4-5 globals gone and you still not defend. )
Survival is super fun now, try it.
I only maining 3 classes for 4-5 years.
One healer, R shaman or caster Mw
One melee survi or ret
One caster only affli.
You can still learn a lot on counter ppl when you play these roles. Try it. I think pvp os now is really hard mostly with healers, but try to learn with others to counter them.
For example with affli I know the biggest weak points for Mw’s (the interrupt) and Im waiting for it for minutes while I do a big cd for it.
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What this has to do with sv being op right now which it is, not single lock spec is good this season either so where is the relevance with locks. And oh wow, locks were actually good for one whole month did you say? Well how many months are in one season exactly, 6 months? How about retributions being the most broken thing in the game for 6 seasons row now since its rework in dragonflight. You wanna talk about something remain op sure lets talk about retri remain op for 36 months or any other obvious tuning biases in the game, yet locks were nerfed on this seasons off season for no reason twice even when they are not in meta so do not bring locks to this discussion if you have any sense or know anything of recent tuning or meta balance. We can discuss of the other specs still not received their proper nerfs in the other threads, I would start from retribution as its the most op now. But op is complete right sv dmg is bonkers and way higher than many other specs in the game.
SV has been strong for all 3 seasons. Only now people are starting to notice it? Sv has allot of variables that need to line up for them to do high damage. Compare it to a ret or even fury and they don’t do anything the first minute of the game. It is not a 1 button damage spec that can just smack a keyboard and get the game to win. Yes, their damage is high if played correctly.
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Tell me you are Fotm rerolle SV without telling me
Sv in the first minute of the arena can force enemy healer’s trinket else healer sits on 10 sec cc while dps dies . If the healer doesn’t use trinket then DPS forces to use a defense or mobility to los else dps dies.
I haven’t included the fact that your own healer can contribute to chain CC. An all time classic comp rdruid sv can cause a long chain cc to the enemy healer.