Nerf warriors or play mage

PVP Arenas
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flash news, ive been reporting u on sight for MONTHS, idk why i haven’t had u in ignore, every single post of u scream WARRIOR stereotype 2 braincells zugzug bladestorm me stronk
every, single one of them
its alwqays mimimimimimimi warrrior can’t kill mages

WELL THANK GOD U STRUGGLE VS YOUR COUNTER
make a mage, and suck against literally everything in 1v1, o wait, i cannot care about duels and 1v1, because only 3s matter, so why can’t u in 3s play dk warr and rshaman and just purge the barrier/alter and yoink the mage and make his life miserable?

u should, just like all other melees zugers, and thats how mage, MAGE is not overly played, it hasn’t in decades and the brackets i do care about, or the playstyle i enjoy very often it cannot be buffed, because it would become broken in 3s at the highest 1% perfect communication synergy with a rogue THAT I WILL ENVER EVER EVER PLAY.
why don’t u pick any other metric to value if mage is actually broken?
now its awc, then when in awc is not rmp, its actually the 1 player highest in the leaderboard is a mage, because bicmex went on holyday or smth
i had hope, that in 10-15 years, some players,or the community as a whole would grow up and at least start understand some more concept than searching for dirt under the rug until they are satisfied, ive heard people on teamspeak, since 2010, complaining how bad and terrible 3s is, but how its the only meaningul thing in the game, yall are addicted to a gameplay NONE OF U LIKE.

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I WOULD BUT MAGE IS HORRIFICLY BAD AND UNPLAYABLE SPECIALLY IN HUNTERS META. yet, i see more posts about u crying about how strong it is, than me posting how weak it is, it baffles me its literally crazy how everytime i think “well, ill take a break, because mage hardcasting in bg just doens’t work, dmg is poorly tuned, specially outside your super telegraphed surge opener”

but then, i chekc the forum and its always MAGE THIS, MAGE THAT and even tho, they mean, FROST and in 3s (not all apparently) its still hurt how some of the easiest “icouldrerollittomorrowandgetdecentrating” classic want mage nerfed and reworked over, and over, and over
ive listened to r1 aruging on teamspeak, for years, how bad the meta is, how rogue is a joke, ww is a joke, dh is a joke, warrior is a joke, mage is a joke, which one take more skill and so on, and this is still going to this day, its insane, if they NEVER made arena, and focused ojn the rest of the actual pvp content that only the arena players consider meme and a joke, MAYBE we would have a successful game, like u had your 20 years of arena

“but blizzard doens’t fix the game around 3s” well, they definetly don’t for duels and bgs right ? id assume they do it more for arena, but what do i know ive only tried to play a game i enjoy for half my life with glads and r1 on my shoulder telling me i don’t matter because i don’t have r1 and only 3v3 matters

at the end of the day, none of it matters, keep trying to get 5k rating, it wont matter, u will still be unhappy ina game mode u barely enjoy, making forum post about how your counter is strong.

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Why a lot of teams played mirror rmp comps and just did not counter pick comp?

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These are arena forums, thats why u dont see much talking about your favorite , real bracket. :d

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To settle this. Discussion started about warriors being op, mages hard counter them as mages are generally broken. I try to say if warrior was at mage lvls of how op is, it would if not equal at least a fair representation with mage at team comps at AWC . I reinforce this , by saying top professional players with wide variety of specs available and perform perfectly with any given spec resulting in creating a comp with fair synergy and could stand vs different comp , they would pick warriors with the same rate of picking mage. AWC showed it didn’t happen this way . RMP vs RMP. The reason is that these players will play the best performing specs with great synergy. They won’t pick Arms Destro rdruid in this meta for example Why ?

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i know that, but its always nerf mage nerf mage nerf mage and its always this guy, or most of u just on low level alts for some reasons

some of u are so smart to be like
“we should remove blink”
and im like “wth remove blink u crazy?”
“shut up this is arena not bg”

this is exactly the kind of conversation ive seen in this section of the forum

but like i said above somewher eelse in another post, u might asw remove mage for a few seaons, im not touching pvp anyway.

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the post was clearly created by someone, like me, tired and triggered by the constant OMG MAGEEEE MAGE RMP MAGEEE every 3 postes

open check.pvp go to stats, go soloshuffle what u see ? check both regions, what u see ?

check 2v2, check rbg, check blitz, what u see ?

check 3v3, REMIND YOURSELF frost is one spec, and make more posts about frost than MAGE maybe ?

the only stat some pick is
EU 2.2+ 3v3 bracket BAM mage is overlplayed

check total number of players, whats the bracket people actually play?

its not even there its bgs actually.

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im not sure if u are aware but this post is in the arena section.
like nobody gives a f wether ur noob a$$ gets clapped in bg’s or not.

and if u check arena brackets 3v3 and shuffle above 2.2 then ull clearly see that frost mage is top tier. on high rated 3s EU frost mage has substatially more representation then any other specc. and to no wonder, it has by the far the most top tier comps rn.

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yes, i wrote that 2 inches above your post.

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ye i wrote it again so ull maybe realize why people post about mage on the arenja froums.

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u talk alot for someone who doesn’t read

welcome to the list

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i talk alot? like u make dozens of long posts spewing absolute nonsense in regards to arena.

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Lol u only comment when u want to how do u talk alot nice flame kek

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Q a epic bg and make Youtube content about it and leave the arena forums alone

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my dude i created a war for the first time i specced arms and i hit 2-3kk executes out of the blue absolutely randomly, i have no idea what i’m doing there yet im hitting 2-3kk mortals/executes constantly so im pretty sure there is no rocket science involved

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I think both warrior n mage needs nerfs. In shuffle fury is THE strongest spec in the game atm, in 2v2 its the 3rd strongest and in 3v3 its the 4th strongest. Arms isnt far behind either.

Mage is the strongest in 3v3 n still does quite well in shuffle aswell. One important factor as to why its dominant in 3v3 is the same reason its dominant in AWC, teamcomp. The game has always been like this where certain classes enables others.

Put a warlock of any spec in a warrior-WW-hunter lobby n he´ll get farmed, put him in a 3v3 game with a rogue teammate n suddenly he is blasting because the rogue stops everyone from playing the game.

The only relevant topic should be where n how do we want the game to be balanced because we´re never getting a universal balance of any kind. Warrior does well in shuffle because its very easy to play, does too much damage currently n more importantly yet pairs well with essentially all classes in the game to the extent where it can atleast function where as alot of classes relies on very specific comps to be even viable.

My issue with mage is that its simply too tanky with how easy of a time it has avoiding damage to begin with. Maybe im gonna drop enchancement n try ele instead n i might change my mind about mages but as it sits now its just miserable to play against if you´re melee.

Warriors does unreasonable amonts of damage but they atleast dont stop me from playing my character so rogue n mage are still higher on my crap list than warrior.

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frost is the only of the 3 that is up there

more than mobility and shields other things should be nerfed
frostbite
slows/chills
finger&flurry procs and so on

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I´ve no idea if its just frostmage or if its like with fury vs arms where frost is just disgusting causing people to play it over the other specs. The fact that mages doesnt feel like viable kill targets goes entirely against what its been historically of mobile glass cannons.

If you want to be hypermobile you should be far less durable thats a mentality that should be applied across the entire game, rogues should be one of the most squishy classes in the entire game for example.

Currently both are more tanky than say enhancement n enchancement has the worst mobility out of all melees by far.

High mobility - high burst - high control - low consistent - low durability has defined mage for two decades. It should be a very squishy class n its currently more tanky than warlock without losing anything for it.

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in SL we had less mobility but we were way tankier, to the point where in 1v1 it was selfsustained and unkillable

tbh i didn’t mind it, but people complained back then too, so now it shifted more to a mobility class (we have gained 1 mobility spell, and we have gained knockbacks and few other things that help us kite

frost is definetly way better than fire arcane

it has the core gameplay of them kiting, but it does it better because it applies slows, roots, and has 2 iceblocks and has ALOT of dmg on instant cast
icelance, flurry, frostfire

while arcane has alot of precasting and hardcasting, and if locked on arcane it cannot kite/move/slow u

fire has instant but it dies more easily and does less dmg

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A good arcane mage is impossible to catch what so ever but good arcane mages are alot more rare than frost mage fotm rerollers. Rogue annoys me far more than mages atm though.

What i dont get is why mage is allowed to be both tanky and hypermobile, its easier killing a warlock than a mage n on a lock even as enchancement i have good uptime where as against a mage i have 98% downtime even if the mage is awful.

WoW just doesnt follow any kind of logic when it comes to class design, a rogue should get its arms torn off if it tries to brawl with pretty much any other melee class in the game, instead it can brawl with fury warriors n actually win. In the same way frostmage is the most mobile caster in the game n at the same time one of the classes that casts the least. But yeah intill they nuke all 3 rogue specs i really dont care about mages.

Rogues should die to someone looking in their general direction. They should do cosmetic amonts of damage to plate n even mail. Either they need to lose 40% of their entire damage profile across the board alongside 2/3 of their survive cds, or they need to lose 90% of their CC. Give them one stun on a 30s - 1 min cd n make them follow the pattern of all other classes.