Its pretty simple why its only mages and rogues playing AWC, in case poggers on warriors can kill any class without 4 blinks by 3gcd, hitting execute for 4kk, just made a warrior 2 days ago and insta hitted 2k by oneshotting peoples, you wont see any other casters high in case this dumb class can solo onetap them, so as long as warrior are op everyone supposed to play as mage or rogue or warrior
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Fried take but I agree nerf mages
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Both warrior and mage need a look at. If they nerf mage, warrior will have pretty much 0 counters. They already steamroll everything that isn’t a mage.
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WW is a warrior counter and ele, devoker and all hunter specs can handle it.
Warrior just needs those out of the blue 3-4 mil executes looked at.
There is a fraction of truth on what you said . However mage got the most representation at AWC
I don’t think looking at AWC for balance is a good idea, since 99.9% of the playerbase is not playing in AWCs.
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These 3-4M executes are not with each use of the ability. Some modifiers are involved either by procs for slayer or flat ones for MT and generally the cds . Assuming you got 12m hp a 3,5m average execute is around 30% kinda fair
You’re also disregarding the dampening changes, and warriors having MS. They indirectly got buffed and made warrior (an already overperforming spec) even better. But yes, mage is keeping warrior in check.
Please, I beg, use any brain power you have ONE time.
This is your approach, i respect it. However at higher ratings close to gladiator and at AWC levels, game is played nearly perfectly so you can see what actually is going on at the game cause human error has been minimized.
Nearly all combs bring an MS effect without utilizing warriors. So the rest of the classes with MS also indirectly got buffed and they were already perform better than warrior . So what’s your point again?
I watch AWC and I see RMP vs RMP , I see different teams , different players with RMP . What should I assume?? " Hmmm rogue mage ain’t that strong no matter the fact,top professional players could play anything else but they choose to play mediocre ones and we conclude in warriors are broken "
AT AWC
ARENA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
jesus, u people always take the best data to present your argument… i swear some of u would even be like “bro speed leveling fastest class is mage, mage needs to be looked at”
take the most played bracket, check both regions, and see where the classes are, where the majority of people play…
SO WHAT if the best mage in the world, can play with the best rogue and priest in the world, u rly think u gonna have that shot in more than 1 round in soloshuffle if u r lucky?
first of all, u don’t see as many mages as u complain about, and u don’t see as many rogues too, finding a rogue and a mage, and maybe even a priest ? in soloshuffle? and then maybe even getting them to actually coordinate and not, u know, assa dot everything, u sheep 1 thing he cries his bleeds are gone and alt f4 ?
why do u care whats being played at awc, its 0.0000001% of the actual gameplay
some of u are even more infuriating with this whole “well, u shouldn’t care about 2s, only 3s count”
“well, u shouldn’t care about duels, only 3s count”
well, u shouldn’t care about bgs, or blitz, or rbg, only 3s count"
who the f says only 3s count, thats such a minority of wow that for more than a decade i ben praying, PRAYING they just remove the game mode, and we go back to individual class balancing, u know when the game was actually more played in pvp, in vanilla, where ther was no arena, and arena was introduced as a feature and then everyone had to measure their D with their rating and prove they are better AT 3V3 then everyone else only to then have 3 arena masters playing potatoe in bg because they only learned how to LoS and play with 2 other on voice that listen ?
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man play some bgs and leave this forum
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What’s the e-sports of this game at PvP? Which game mode is represented at the ultimate display of skill? Is it blitz, solo shuffle 2s? No it’s 3v3. Playing it or not, like it or not . It is what it is. So yes we gonna balance the game around 3v3 Like any other company does , they balance the game around e-sports, just the other games are far more simple than wow
If that is the case, they’ve been doing a poor job. How many seasons has RMP been the staple of 3’s?
It’s also why I lost interest in even watching competitive (as well as thousands of others) looks at the viewership numbers
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark and say next season RMP will also be S+ tier.
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And here we are. Thanks for stating the obvious. They do actually a poor job at balancing the game generally. My previous answer had its principles of keeping the game fun and fair for anyone through proper tuning so we can have a normal distribution of classes on the range of ratings That does not happen. They purposely keep some classes broken and OP and its shown at AWC
So you’d have also seen where Swapxy’s team locked in Ele/X into Echo’s RMP, beat it, just for Echo to switch over to a Fury Warrior that just W keyed the Ele shaman for 10 minutes until it just died?
AWC is all about playing the best compositions into the opponents and counter picking as much as you can. Ladder, where 99.9999999% of the rest of the game are, is more representative of what is consistently good into everything.
I cannot believe in all of the years you have played this game that this STILL needs to be explained for you. Embarrassing.
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So how can you say that the game is balanced around 3’s if that’s the case… even in 3’s.
I’m not trying to argue with you, or be pedantic, I’m just saying it’s a poor argument. But also, there is more than the 3’s bracket, which are also a lot more popular in terms of participation. Balancing around AWC/E-sports when the vast majority of people do not play anywhere close to that level is absolutely ridiculous.
Arena has a whole needs a complete overhaul honestly, but that’s another topic entirely.
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