DemoLock/BM/Fistweavers are these classes going to be touched at all by the end of season or not?
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Warrrior mobility and heal reduce are most out of control abilities in game. Nerf when?
Also, you stupid warrior.
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You are literally 2000xp rated player who plays one character at 1550cr solo shuffle and 1.1k as destro lol, please avoid forums you are clueless and go flame somewhere else. Your opinion is irrelevant, I wonât responding to your 2 digit iQ replies, have a wonderful day
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You just replied you stupid warrior
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add arms to the list please
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They purposefully forced certain specs in previous expansion to perform poorly because they wanted to rework/fix them. Demonology being one of them. I donât understand why they canât do it now.
There is clear outliers, so hotfix them to force people into a different talent builds, or disable the talents that are causing serious issues.
Seeing 99% of MWâs throwing themselves at people in arena roleplaying as a Windwalker that passively heals makes me cringe inside. Idc how busted it is, Iâll stick to traditional healing.
If youâre doing full DPS, you should be sacrificing healing as a healer, you shouldnât be able to do both things at once with no draw backs. Stupid design. I hope they completely remove the talents capable of doing things like this.
I understand unique playstyles, but this taking the complete mick.
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I agree that Arms also is too strong and could use some nerfs in their offensive pressure, but he is right. Especially Demo Lock is out of control!
Warriors are literally the only thing keeping Demo locks some times in check, and that is the only reason youâre upset about them. Instead of simping for your class, you could accept the nerfs, ask in turn for warriors to not have abilities like wrecking throw that delete your shield, and ask for your tyrant to be less clunky and susceptible to fears.
You sound like the assa rogues of last patch whining about survival hunters bandaging off their burst. You encounter one form of resistance and it gets you so upset you run to the forums
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whats wrong with bm hunters? they are annoying but others do more dmg especially burst 
and hunters can die
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pet specs in general shouldnât be good. I donât know what you do apart from stun/land traps, your pet just absolutely demolishes everything and itâs impossible to kite.
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Every caster wants warrior gutted, your class is dumb and quite broken itâs self. We all love when you press bladestorm and just clap us with a silly amount of dmg, we all love it!
Iâd disagree about warriors keeping demo in check at all, itâd be like feral/bm what can clap demo.
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ok thats true. i think hunters and warlocks/dks should only have 1 pet. a little bit stronger for bm/uh and demo. those armyâs of pets are annoying af.
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Annoying how? They are literally DoTs with physical in-game bodies, doing the same thing as a vampiric touch, pain, agony or any rogue DoT.
And unlike any other DoT, you can root, fear, stun, LoS, slow Kill those demons, whereas with DoTs you only can dispel them.
You canât kite DoTs as well, you canât generate your resources out of vampiric touch - unlike wild imp.
I personally would love to have a summoner class with less demons, but more specialized on some additional effects and more unique toolkits, and I have advocated for such a design for years, but Blizz doesnât give a damn.
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Fistweavers are a bit annoying with how much free stuff they get from just doing a rotation as normal, but both lock and bm are pretty balanced no? They both fall behind very quickly if they arenât peeled, and on small maps itâs a challenge to do your pve rotation no?
Arms warrior is very strong too, but I dont think they could nerf it because it would just be useless if they did. Maybe have a higher CD on sharpen blade.
Like someone previously said though, good mobility, constant MS effect, and high damage. Only flaw of warrior is that they cant really save their team. All they get is intervene and commanding shout. Other than that its just slows, a short stun and a disarm - overall though, I would say arms warrior is just a well designed class, and its strong because other classes arenât.
But I do agree that demo needs nerfing. Also, agree that fistweaver needs nerfing, and BM hunter. The irritating thing about BM hubter in particular is that its very easy to pick up.
The problem is casters say this any time a melee can both semi regularly connect to them and do good damage. Literally every time. Its a bit of a boy who cried wolf scenario. You guys cried so much, while being the tankiest specs in the game, that now we live in a world where most casters arenât the tankiest specs in the game and now none of us actually believe you. You guys wonât accept being trained but doing high damage, like warlocks, and you wonât accept good mobility but low damage, like old fire mage. You will whine endlessly until youâre unkillable walls like 10.0 SP, that can instant cast out damage and CC like crazy. Or youâll whine about your defensives being dispelled (by other wizards 
) until you have 3 hp bars like SL Fire Mage
Iâm fine to give you guys more survivability, but weâre taking away a good chunk of your burst and CC to compensate. As someone who virtually never FOTMs, I can tell you, I donât particularly care if its DH FOTMers or SP FOTMers running me over, you were both unkillable, did absurd damage and were unpeelable for an entire 3 month period - and now its demo locks and ret paladins ruining the game instead. Standing in a triangle and doing PvE rotation with your left hand while finger drumming the latest taylor swift song with your right hand isnât any more or less skilled than holding W and doing a pve rotation into a character as double melee.
And I know you know this is how it is, because your priest has a grand total of 2,000 HKs and your lock
has a grand total of 8,000 HKs.
You see what the latest broken caster is, log out and make a new character. You even only play the FOTM race too, or are we gonna pretend you really love dark iron dwarves that much? Theres something about mindlessly FOTMing this hard that just makes me not care about your opinion. Worst case scenario, youâll just FOTM to the next most OP thing.
Buff warrior since its the only class that keeps these lock boys in check.
If warlock is most tankiest spec, why everyone sits on him 100% of time? Especially every stupid warrior? 6 games, 12 games, 18 games⌠play you 18 games under pressure - and you cant press your spells. Play you for months and cant use your main spell for entire arena. Dumb warrior. Warlock is class who is getting most damage from all classes. Not tanky. Stupid warrior.
He is not wrong though? Warrior is the 2nd best melee in the game (would have been 1st if ret wasnât overbuffed)?
You can take a look yourself:
https://www.skill-capped.com/articles/wow/solo-shuffle-tier-list/
https://youtu.be/mCATbf6xKoE?t=238
https://check-pvp.fr/stats?bracket=3v3&rating=2400
Lashing out at some random forum player for them criticizing you says more about your character than âtheir opinion being irrelevantââŚ
Nice 1500 rating at 50% winrate btw 
The problem with warlocks would be that if you leave them freecasting â you wont have a good time. So training the warlock â they do less damage â you take less damage â etc etc.
Because if you let a warlock (or any wizard really) free cast for more than 1 second, your entire team drops to 10% hp. This is why everyone sits on Demo, Destro, Frost, Ele and MM as well.
Ask for your damage to be nerfed so people wonât have to train you with 2 melee + a resto shaman just to lock you down and hope to win against your problem class