New desktop

Hello everyone ,

After 6 years of playing in a laptop , I decided to build my own desktop . I’m looking to play mainly WoW ( mostly raids ) at 1920x1080 and my budget is ~750€ . I have no older parts to use in the new desktop apart from this monitor LG 24MK600M ,that supports FreeSync .

After doing some research , I have come down to these pieces . Do you have to make any suggestions in what I should replace? I 've no idea about pc’s so any help would be appreciated.

cpu : I’ve found i5-9600KF at 213€ but I think it might be an overkill for this gpu
gpu : PULSE RX5500 XT 4G 4GB GDDR6 / MSI RADEON RX570 ARMOR 8G GDDR5
ram : G.SKILL F4-2133C15D-16GVR 16GB (2X8GB)
psu : PSU THERMALTAKE W0592RE HAMBURG PRO RGB 550W
motherboard: ASUS PRIME Z390-P
ssd : KINGSTON SA2000M8/500G

I would really recommend getting the Ryzen 3600 instead (and an AM4 Motherboard of course).
The Ryzen is about the same speed, some games a bit slower, some faster, but cheaper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_DBUJrWl4
Also why did you choose 2133Mhz RAM? That is as slow as DDR3 :smiley:
You should go for 3200Mhz or 3600Mhz RAM, especially with a Ryzen and for WoW.
For the GPU i would either go for the Nvidia 1660 Super or a RX 5500 with 8GB VRAM, 4 is just not enough if you want to play some other games too.
500GB SSD is fine.

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Presumably because they don’t know what RAM speed they want, hence why they’re asking here…?

Intel CPU’s and AMD graphic cards are - for various reasons - not highly favoured at the moment.

The only thing ‘missing’ from the list you posted was a case; is that something you already have?
My suggestion for the six parts you listed would be the following (excuse broken link):
https:// uk.pcpartpicker. com/list/csBnrV

Hi! I have just recently built a “budget” desktop PC intended only for WoW and maybe you can get inspired a little bit. Now do note I am using SSDs/HDDs from my previous builds therefore those are not included in the overall price. The build is:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
GPU: MSI GeForce 1660Ti
RAM: G.SKILL 16GB KIT DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Gaming series Aegis
PSU: Seasonic Core GC 650W Gold
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max
Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4TF

All in all this cost me around 800 euros and if you play around with the parts a little bit you can bring it down to your budget plus get an SSD. For example you could save some cash swapping 1660Ti for 1660 Super but I would definitely keep the Ryzen + get 3200Mhz RAM as was mentioned above.

Now regarding the performance on this PC… I have everything maxed out except shadows on high and MSAA x4. It rarely drops below 60fps, when you have too many people around you it floats around 45-50 BUT… If you swap stock CPU cooler with for example ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO as I did later on, you can safely OC the CPU and you will literally NEVER go below 60fps.

If you will struggle to find alternatives for these parts let me know, no idea where you come from so cannot tell what is available for you.

Hopefully I was able to help a bit though. :slight_smile:

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You can get below 60 very easily. Try raiding 30man heroic or doing a world boss with 40+ people. Or try Ashran BG etc etc.
Even with a 9900K or an 3900x you will get drops below 40 FPS when bombing lots of trash for example.

Thanks for the reply . Is nvidia gpu much better than the AMD I linked? I’m asking you because I want to take advantage of the freeSync monitor I have ( with the amd gpu) .But to be honest , I don’t know if the difference with Vsync is that noticable.

GeForce cards can do both… Radeon cards rarely have G-sync compatibility.

AMD cards can only use FreeSync and can’t use the proprietary GSync module - unless the display is “G-Sync compatible” which means FreeSync/AdaptiveSync just nvidia alike branded.

Well that’s funny because before this build I had a PC with 9900K and the lowest fps I’ve seen doing any content in the game was like 80… Not sure where your experience comes from, I only write what I have seen with my own two eyes. The 9900K before was paired with MSI RTX 2070 GAMING X.

Either way, I consider my activity in this thread (and the other one where you commented pretty much the same thing) to be done for now unless the thread creators will have some sort of a direct question for me directly. Cheers.

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Guess you haven’t done a proper raid then or haven’t looked at the FPS during a fight.

PS: LFR is not a proper raid

From my own and friends.

Also checkout this benchmark: https://youtu.be/s7vKkAlMTMs
As you can see even a 5.2Ghz 9900K drops below 80 FPS in LFR with NO ADDONS.
Now imagine playing with 30 people in a real raid where not 50% is afk or pressing one button per minute and add lots of cpu straining addons like weakaura, details, nameplates etc.
You will see FPS below 60 and sub 40 in extreme situations.

I think some still think they can run their game at graphic level 10, which is probably there for the real serious overclocker at the moment. Plus Blizzard put in another graphic setting to use when you’re in a party/raid. As reaction time with frames per second flowing is more important than fancy ooh graphics.

Also any PC built can be different from anyone elses. Different ram speeds, different quality of data cables, motherboards can come into it with some trying to run expensive parts on a cheap motherboard fo example.

Try to match your parts as closely to the other parts. Low end cpu, low end motherboard, graphics and all. Mid-range, mid-range parts.

And high end cpu, high end board with the best chipset will see you gain any FPS you might lose. Not everything is made the same, that can go for SSD’s, RAM and even hard drives.

Free-Sync monitors are weird, the cheaper they are, the lower the availability in frame rate range from lowest to highest supported.

Back in the day, even I managed to get decent framerates from WoW with a FX8350 when some were having issues. It’s al about setting up your system build properly, ensuring your board can supply the right power when it needs it as well to what is installed on your system as in software/background programs.

Simply put, got Norton/Macafee, uninstall it, those are huge resource hogs. If your cpu has to bother scanning every file accessed, it’s going to slow down a game.

And yes, even addons can affect FPS as well, even the well known good ones that are updated.

Level 6-7 is enough for quality looks in the game right now. If you’re wanting high response, 3-4 for large raids, busy areas such as a huge PvP battle. That’s where the advantage can come in. Less the system has to push with your own actions never mind anyone elses, the more faster you can get your spells/abilities out.

Research, look in what you want from the system and then plan out from there. But the planning doesn’t stop after getting it, then it’s ensuring you have a smooth running software as well.

For the moment, the Ryzen’s are about the right choice over the intel right about now. The real life up and downs from one camp to another is tiny to not being noticable at all.

That and AM4 is upgradeable to at least the 4000 series of Ryzens, not sure about the 5000 series but if you want to get 4000, it’s B550/X570 only chipsets as the new minimal and the X670/B650 being the new recommended.

But that means right now, people will be trying to get rid of Ryzen 3000’s to clear stock, same for their B450/X470 boards so can expect prices to drop a bit before the 4000 cpu’s, new motherboards come out. I say 450/470 boards as can see larger discounts on those than the 570 boards.

Only disadvantage is no PCIE4.0 but you have no problems running a Ryzen 5 3600 on a PCIE3.0 motherboard.

Old news… what they use by way of resources, now, is a drop in the ocean compared to when that was actually the case.
How do I know…? I use Norton 360 Premium & it barely touches RAM/CPU.

Now; if you’re talking current resource hogs, look no further than Chrome…

Chrome is the new Crysis; “but can it run chrome?” :joy:

Oh yeah, Chrome has become the old Internet Explorer backin the day.

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